Author Topic: Claim PJ want to reopen Madeleine case as abduction  (Read 13011 times)

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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Claim PJ want to reopen Madeleine case as abduction
« Reply #45 on: October 23, 2013, 11:38:38 PM »
could you tell us how the parents could have prevented the case from being shelved

By returning to Portugal for a reconstition as requested.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Claim PJ want to reopen Madeleine case as abduction
« Reply #46 on: October 23, 2013, 11:39:55 PM »
By returning to Portugal for a reconstition as requested.

the parents agreed to,,so it  shows how much you know

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Claim PJ want to reopen Madeleine case as abduction
« Reply #47 on: October 23, 2013, 11:45:27 PM »
They agreed but did not act & neither did their friends, despite all efforts to get them to.
You will find words to that effect in the archival summary I believe.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Claim PJ want to reopen Madeleine case as abduction
« Reply #48 on: October 23, 2013, 11:49:03 PM »
They agreed but did not act & neither did their friends, despite all efforts to get them to.
You will find words to that effect in the archival summary I believe.

your quote doesn't make sense after "they agreed""...which they did..Montclairs given up and he knows the case better than you it seems

Redblossom

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Re: Claim PJ want to reopen Madeleine case as abduction
« Reply #49 on: October 23, 2013, 11:49:08 PM »
the parents agreed to,,so it  shows how much you know

They HAD to agree, theyhad NO CHOICE as arguidos..,pls dont try and make it sound like they wanted  to take part, that is a LIE on YOUR part, they hated the idea and their hatred of it is documented on many videos...they complained about the request, they said people should unserstand what they have been through already, goingback would be awful,  they didnt think  it would do anything good,yes they agreed to it because they had NO CHOICE not because they CHOSE TO theydidnt WANT to go back so stop pushing the lie...they were positively AGAINST IT, no stone unturned hey? Rather not it seems.....disgraceful
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Claim PJ want to reopen Madeleine case as abduction
« Reply #50 on: October 23, 2013, 11:53:42 PM »
They HAD to agree, theyhad NO CHOICE as arguidos..,pls dont try and make it sound like they wanted  to take part, that is a LIE on YOUR part, they hated the idea and their hatred of it is documented on many videos...they complained about the request, they said people should unserstand what they have been through already, goingback would be awful,  they didnt think  it would do anything good,yes they agreed to it because they had NO CHOICE not because they CHOSE TO theydidnt WANT to go back so stop pushing the lie
 8((()*/

do try to keep up dear... I agree...so you would agree with me that wonderfulspams claim is a total load of rubbish

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Claim PJ want to reopen Madeleine case as abduction
« Reply #51 on: October 23, 2013, 11:55:50 PM »
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id136.html
Nevertheless, despite national authorities assuming all measures to render their trip to Portugal viable, for unknown motives, after the many doubts that they raised about the necessity and opportunity of their trip were clarified several times, they chose not to attend, which rendered the diligence inviable.
 
We believe that the main damage was caused to the McCann arguidos, who lost the possibility to prove what they have protested since they were constituted arguidos: their innocence towards the fateful event; the investigation was also disturbed, because said facts remain unclarified.
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Redblossom

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Re: Claim PJ want to reopen Madeleine case as abduction
« Reply #52 on: October 23, 2013, 11:56:56 PM »
do try to keep up dear... I agree...so you would agree with me that wonderfulspams claim is a total load of rubbish

Go have some horlicks and out your slippers on victor

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Claim PJ want to reopen Madeleine case as abduction
« Reply #53 on: October 23, 2013, 11:59:09 PM »
Go have some horlicks and out your slippers on victor

red..if only you knew...you do realise victor is gay

Redblossom

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Re: Claim PJ want to reopen Madeleine case as abduction
« Reply #54 on: October 24, 2013, 12:04:27 AM »
red..if only you knew...you do realise victor is gay

Not sure about victor and dont care but fact is your diluting the mccanns response to request for a reconstruction from being vehemently opposed to it  FACT to saying they agreed to it is laughable  and dishonest at best....see ya feel sick at all the lies and smoke and mirrors and apologist sycophantic vomit material here today, enjoy though, gone >>>>>>>

Benita

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Re: Claim PJ want to reopen Madeleine case as abduction
« Reply #55 on: October 24, 2013, 12:08:18 AM »
the mccanns didn't do a reconstruction ..get over it ..its now in the of hands the sy and the reopening of the case as abduction..why does that pee you off so much red ?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Claim PJ want to reopen Madeleine case as abduction
« Reply #56 on: October 24, 2013, 12:10:10 AM »
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id136.html
Nevertheless, despite national authorities assuming all measures to render their trip to Portugal viable, for unknown motives, after the many doubts that they raised about the necessity and opportunity of their trip were clarified several times, they chose not to attend, which rendered the diligence inviable.
 
We believe that the main damage was caused to the McCann arguidos, who lost the possibility to prove what they have protested since they were constituted arguidos: their innocence towards the fateful event; the investigation was also disturbed, because said facts remain unclarified.

if you had shown the whole post you would  have seen that the "they" does not refer to the McCanns...stop being dishonest you have been caught out

Offline Montclair

Re: Claim PJ want to reopen Madeleine case as abduction
« Reply #57 on: October 24, 2013, 12:12:59 AM »
Does anyone know if the McCanns will regain their arguido status if the case if reopened?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Claim PJ want to reopen Madeleine case as abduction
« Reply #58 on: October 24, 2013, 12:16:12 AM »
Does anyone know if the McCanns will regain their arguido status if the case if reopened?
 

so you have completely given up on "the McCanns could have stopped the case being shelved"

Offline Benice

Re: Claim PJ want to reopen Madeleine case as abduction
« Reply #59 on: October 24, 2013, 12:18:10 AM »
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id136.html
Nevertheless, despite national authorities assuming all measures to render their trip to Portugal viable, for unknown motives, after the many doubts that they raised about the necessity and opportunity of their trip were clarified several times, they chose not to attend, which rendered the diligence inviable.
 
We believe that the main damage was caused to the McCann arguidos, who lost the possibility to prove what they have protested since they were constituted arguidos: their innocence towards the fateful event; the investigation was also disturbed, because said facts remain unclarified.

I notice it says the main damage was caused TO the McCanns, not by them.   The AG obviously did not hold them responsible for the non-reconstruction and attached no blame to them.  A point which he must have taken into consideration when making his final decision which he made 'after considering all the foregoing' - (the ''foregoing' which included the remarks about the non-reconstruction) - and stated that it was apparent they played no part in the disappearance of their daughter - and gave all the reasons why. 

   


The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal