Anything and everything

[jassi]

Well it was crimewatch for me . I decided to read all the evidence in the pj files and got wondering what our money donated was being spent on and all these libel cases too. Its getting a bit expensive for all the taxpayers who are paying for investigations that other kids didn't get. All seems strange!

Compared with the 140 million that this government has just wasted in writing off a benefits computer system, what is being spent by SY is very small beer.

[jassi]

I wonder what this 'no news on the case' means, a media blackout?

Is it a good or bad sign?

Two PJ teams and one UK team working on the case is promising.. I wonder what they are into at the moment.

Not sure if it is a good or bad sign as far as progress is concerned, but I think a media blackout is an excellent thing and should be applied to all  investigations, except when assistance from the public is required.

[Aiofe]

Not sure if it is a good or bad sign as far as progress is concerned, but I think a media blackout is an excellent thing and should be applied to all  investigations, except when assistance from the public is required.

It is part of a Democratic society that the press should be able to investigate all aspects of it including Criminal Justice and the Police. Do you agree?

[jassi]

It is part of a Democratic society that the press should be able to investigate all aspects of it including Criminal Justice and the Police. Do you agree?

Up to a point, but not to the extent that it would interfere with an active police investigation, or prejudice   any subsequent trial.

[Aiofe]

Up to a point, but not to the extent that it would interfere with an active police investigation, or prejudice   any subsequent trial.

When do you think such protections should start?

[Anna]

Compared with the 140 million that this government has just wasted in writing off a benefits computer system, what is being spent by SY is very small beer.

Are you referring to this, which will pay back the cost very quickly. if not then can you tell me where you got the information. so that I might study
The government has unveiled a sweeping strategy to create its own internal "cloud computing" system – such as that used by Google, Microsoft and Amazon – as part of a radical plan that it claims could save up to £3.2bn a year from an annual bill of at least £16bn.

[jassi]

When do you think such protections should start?

Probably right at the beginning of a case, but almost impossible to enforce. If media could be restricted to reporting the facts and not wide speculation, it might help. A major problem is that with 24 hour news channels, there is a clamour for constant updates.
In the case of the McCanns, the media was positively encouraged from the start and regularly fed by the PR machinery that was rapidly set up.
In many ways, I feel it would have been better if there had been no interviews and no media camped out at PDL, but that isn't what happened.

I do like the concept of police records becoming freely available once a case is closed and wonder if it will ever happen in UK.

[jassi]

Are you referring to this, which will pay back the cost very quickly. if not then can you tell me where you got the information. so that I might study
The government has unveiled a sweeping strategy to create its own internal "cloud computing" system – such as that used by Google, Microsoft and Amazon – as part of a radical plan that it claims could save up to £3.2bn a year from an annual bill of at least £16bn.

Yes, the question is whether it will make such savings or if these are just wild speculation.

[Aiofe]

Probably right at the beginning of a case, but almost impossible to enforce. If media could be restricted to reporting the facts and not wide speculation, it might help. A major problem is that with 24 hour news channels, there is a clamour for constant updates.
In the case of the McCanns, the media was positively encouraged from the start and regularly fed by the PR machinery that was rapidly set up.
In many ways, I feel it would have been better if there had been no interviews and no media camped out at PDL, but that isn't what happened.

I do like the concept of police records becoming freely available once a case is closed and wonder if it will ever happen in UK.

When does a case begin?

In the USA with no prior restraint the Press can print anything that is not libellous.

If the press can print nothing about a case until it is concluded, the entire Justice system and police would be free of public investigation.

Should this blackout involve forums and blogs on the internet?

DO you want press freedom or the press to be shckled?
How do you differentiate wild speculation from the facts- should only facts be placed on sites like this with no wild speculation?

[Anna]

Yes, the question is whether it will make such savings or if these are just wild speculation.

Wild speculation ? I am sure it has all been calculated by people who know what they are talking about and what has this to do with the original post of Maddie case?

[jassi]

Nothing - it was comment in response to cost. End

[Anna]

You have to consider why the problem still remains when not a single myth or rumour about Madeleine's parents has been printed by a UK newspaper in over five years.

Exactly! Because there was no media and the WD programme didn't help, So people like myself decided to check out the PJ files and came to their conclusions . I am still open minded, but I am being swayed as the truth comes out, such as the PIs evidence being held back for 5 years.  Why?

[Aiofe]

Exactly! Because there was no media and the WD programme didn't help, So people like myself decided to check out the PJ files and came to their conclusions . I am still open minded, but I am being swayed as the truth comes out, such as the PIs evidence being held back for 5 years.  Why?

The newspapers are aware that Carter Ruck will jump on any attempt to defame the McCanns. This is what the law is for. Defamation is a tort with a set procedure for assessing whether the law has been broken. The Newspapers know that if they print defamatory articles, they risk being successfully sued for libel. Hence they are keeping on the right side of the law and avoiding defamation. If they find any evidence of the Mccann's criminality (the Portuguese AG could not) then they can print the story and defend it by justification. There is no body of evidence to allow them to do this, so they do not.

Do you think newspapers should have a licence to defame any person they wish to?

[Anna]

The newspapers are aware that Carter Ruck will jump on any attempt to defame the McCanns. This is what the law is for. Defamation is a tort with a set procedure for assessing whether the law has been broken. The Newspapers know that if they print defamatory articles, they risk being successfully sued for libel. Hence they are keeping on the right side of the law and avoiding defamation. If they find any evidence of the Mccann's criminality (the Portuguese AG could not) then they can print the story and defend it by justification. There is no body of evidence to allow them to do this, so they do not.

Do you think newspapers should have a licence to defame any person they wish to?

Of course not.
 I believe that because there was no news, people checked the PJ files and made their own conclusions and not that the news had a right to defamation This was an answer to,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
You have to consider why the problem still remains when not a single myth or rumour about Madeleine's parents has been printed by a UK newspaper in over five years.

[Mr Gray]

Of course not.
 I believe that because there was no news, people checked the PJ files and made their own conclusions and not that the news had a right to defamation This was an answer to,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
You have to consider why the problem still remains when not a single myth or rumour about Madeleine's parents has been printed by a UK newspaper in over five years.

 you don't think its because express newspaers were sued for libel 5 yrs ago