Anything and everything

[Aiofe]

The April Jones Case in Wales- the dreadful murser. £,4 and 5 year old children commonly played outside on the rec without parental observation.

That's three.

[BigFatBlonde]

Can we agree that, from a legal standpoint, leaving Madeleine alone was not neglect

but from a moral standpoint it was a stupid and neglectful thing to do?

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[Aiofe]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/mother-leaves-girl-11-alone-in-london-flat-1472722.html

four weeks in SPain.

Not proceeded with.

I'm stopping now. All were agreed on the very anti three arguidos site to be real cases.

Perhaps those that suggest that anything like the Mccanns has ever resulted in a successful court case for neglect in the UK should produce these cases.

Do people think the McCanns would have been found guilty of neglect in the UK if the disappearance had happened here?

[Aiofe]

Leaving a child outside a pub in a child seat in the evening, asleep, while the parents drank in the pub.

Leaving a child alone asleep in the house while the single parent walked down the street to the local convenience store.

Leaving 8, 9 and 10 year olds alone at home.

Leaving babies asleep in cots while parents were in the neighbour's house, or calling from a telephone kiosk at the end of the street.

Leaving children asleep in car seats while shopping is done.

Allowing 3, 4 and 5 year olds to play outside in safe situations with no parental supervision.

Going to Spain and leaving a ten year old alone, visited daily by his grandmother.

Let's highlight them in red as we provide citations as requested - one down six to go.

[Aiofe]

Leaving a child outside a pub in a child seat in the evening, asleep, while the parents drank in the pub.

Leaving a child alone asleep in the house while the single parent walked down the street to the local convenience store.

Leaving 8, 9 and 10 year olds alone at home.

Leaving babies asleep in cots while parents were in the neighbour's house, or calling from a telephone kiosk at the end of the street.

Leaving children asleep in car seats while shopping is done.

Allowing 3, 4 and 5 year olds to play outside in safe situations with no parental supervision.

Going to Spain and leaving a ten year old alone, visited daily by his grandmother.

Let's highlight them in red as we provide citations as requested - one down six to go.

Only two left here without cites.

Has anyone ever heard of someone being charged with neglect when within walking distance of their own front door. I haven't.

I think that will do.

Over to those who insist that the McCanns would have been prosecuted in the UK. If you say it, back it up with a cite!

I would point out that I am currently waiting for cites from Stephen 25000, Anne Guedes (for weeks) and Luz. I don't moan too much about them not complying with the rules!

[AnneGuedes]

Perhaps you would cite the part of the Portuguese Criminal Code that deals with neglect.

You stated that "there is no criminal law against neglect in Portugal" without citing the CPP. Read the article 15.

[Aiofe]

You stated that "there is no criminal law against neglect in Portugal" without citing the CPP. Read the article 15.

Please quote it in English

[Cariad]

The April Jones Case in Wales- the dreadful murser. £,4 and 5 year old children commonly played outside on the rec without parental observation.

That's three.

She was on the estate, not a recreation ground. She was outside her own home. She wasn't alone. Machynlleth is a tiny Welsh community. My Mother's family come from the same kind of place. Kids play out in the street and doors are never locked in the day. That's how it is.

Here's a cite for a parent who received a caution for leaving her 14 year old looking after her 3 year old for half an hour.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/227553/Police-caution-mum-for-leaving-son-14-to-mind-three-year-old-brother

[Aiofe]

"Going to Spain and leaving a ten year old alone, visited daily by HIS grandmother."

 This case involved an 11 year old GIRL left in the custody of an elderly neighbor who became ill !
So you're going to claim this story to back up this statement I guess ! Easy to see where 'myths' can develop, sloppily researched quotes thrown onto a forum declared as 'facts' !
Shame on you Aiofe, I shan't ask you to provide citations for the other unproven 'facts', as you've made yourself out to be the biggest clown on this forum.

If you check the red highlighting, I was referencing another case.

You are an obsessional old woman.

Please list any conviction in the UK for anything like the Mccanns did.

[Aiofe]

She was on the estate, not a recreation ground. She was outside her own home. She wasn't alone. Machynlleth is a tiny Welsh community. My Mother's family come from the same kind of place. Kids play out in the street and doors are never locked in the day. That's how it is.

Here's a cite for a parent who received a caution for leaving her 14 year old looking after her 3 year old for half an hour.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/227553/Police-caution-mum-for-leaving-son-14-to-mind-three-year-old-brother

Thank you.

No conviction there, just someone acting without good legal advice.

[BigFatBlonde]

If you check the red highlighting, I was referencing another case.

You are an obsessional old woman.

Please list any conviction in the UK for anything like the Mccanns did.

Well, we don't know what the McCanns did, do we.

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[Aiofe]

You stated that "there is no criminal law against neglect in Portugal" without citing the CPP. Read the article 15.

That talks about the legal concept of negligence, not of child neglect.

Sometimes you do make me laugh.

[Cariad]

Thank you.

No conviction there, just someone acting without good legal advice.

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/features/at-what-age-can-a-child-be-left-at-home-alone-1.807015?referrerPath=features

But there are exceptions. Last week a Carlisle mother was jailed for 56 days for leaving her two children, both under school age, at home alone when she went to buy cigarettes.

[Aiofe]

Well, we don't know what the McCanns did, do we.

N

What they are reported by the police to have done.

[BigFatBlonde]

www.walesonline.co.uk/.../mother-jailed-leaving-baby-home-2058016‎

Not entirely dissimilar. Left home alone while she went out partying.

And let us not forget it wasn't just Madeleine that was left. How old were the twins again?

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