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Offline John

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #45 on: November 07, 2013, 02:34:27 PM »
Unfortunately one of the mods deleted your post Benita but I can still respond to it.


i'll stick with the known facts thank you ...you really love to stir the pot don't you john ...watch out though cos one day it will come back and bite you on the arse!  ... ?>)()<

You claimed that the original post by a new member was flawed so I offered an alternative which you haven't even bothered to respond to.

So instead of making spurious comments about stirring pots together with making veiled threats, let have those facts.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline colombosstogey

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #46 on: November 07, 2013, 02:34:58 PM »
No need to shout, we're not deaf.  This is interesting what you put in your post:

Its not true Amaral NEVER BEAT anyone up

I wasnt shouting I was answering someones post.

Why is it interesting pray do tell...its the truth, he never beat up the mother who commited filicide neither did any of the other police.

Rachel Granada

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Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #47 on: November 07, 2013, 02:35:22 PM »
John's response to question 10 below, yes indeed John - you just saved me from typing that out!

10,. The parents have used money from the fund to sue people who have abused and defamed them.

Rachel Granada

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Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #48 on: November 07, 2013, 02:36:53 PM »
I wasnt shouting I was answering someones post.

Why is it interesting pray do tell...its the truth, he never beat up the mother who commited filicide neither did any of the other police.

Do you not know what a double negative is?

Shouting is considered rude on fora.

Offline John

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #49 on: November 07, 2013, 02:38:49 PM »
He didn't "falsify", he signed without checking. Of course he shouldn't have but that doesn't make him a falsification maker.

He was convicted of falsifying, whether he did it knowingly or not is another matter.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline colombosstogey

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #50 on: November 07, 2013, 02:39:13 PM »
Unfortunately one of the mods deleted your post Benita but I can still respond to it.

You claimed that the original post by a new member was flawed so I offered an alternative which you haven't even bothered to respond to.

So instead of making spurious comments about stirring pots together with making veiled threats, let have those facts.

I asked for clarification too, quite politely I am happy to be educated about the facts, but I find that sadly people are happy to try and rail road posts but have nothing positive to say.

Its sad really as I am not convinced the McCanns harmed their daughter but so far no one has given me any proof, or scenario that would prove she was abducted.

So what did happen to her... 8-)(--)

Offline John

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #51 on: November 07, 2013, 02:40:07 PM »
John's response to question 10 below, yes indeed John - you just saved me from typing that out!

10,. The parents have used money from the fund to sue people who have abused and defamed them.

Maybe Benita will read my posts in future.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #52 on: November 07, 2013, 02:41:42 PM »
I asked for clarification too, quite politely I am happy to be educated about the facts, but I find that sadly people are happy to try and rail road posts but have nothing positive to say.

Its sad really as I am not convinced the McCanns harmed their daughter but so far no one has given me any proof, or scenario that would prove she was abducted.

So what did happen to her... 8-)(--)

I totally agree, there is a middle ground, a truth, so let's try and find it.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Benita

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Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #53 on: November 07, 2013, 02:42:59 PM »
Unfortunately one of the mods deleted your post Benita but I can still respond to it.

You claimed that the original post by a new member was flawed so I offered an alternative which you haven't even bothered to respond to.

So instead of making spurious comments about stirring pots together with making veiled threats, let have those facts.


veiled threats  ..?  and the facts are ... "THE McCANN'S AND THEIR FRIENDS ARE NEITHER PERSONS OF INTEREST NOR SUSPECTS IN THE DISAPPEARANCE OF MADELEINE"

DCI REDWOOD


 8)--))


Offline colombosstogey

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #54 on: November 07, 2013, 02:46:48 PM »
Do you not know what a double negative is?

Shouting is considered rude on fora.

I am not here to play games. I know what is rude and what is not and emphasing a point in bold is not always considered RUDE.

I stated quickly that Amaral never did not beat anyone up certainly not the mother who commited filicide.

I try to write clearly but I do have MS and sometimes my posts might not be 100percent but the gist was there, and anyone who had intelligence would know what I was saying.

Its a shame that people are happier to just sit and nit pick posts, but never give any ideas as to what happened to the child on the 3rd May.

If your intention was not to make fun of me, then I apologise.

Benita

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Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #55 on: November 07, 2013, 02:50:15 PM »
I am not here to play games. I know what is rude and what is not and emphasing a point in bold is not always considered RUDE.

I stated quickly that Amaral never did not beat anyone up certainly not the mother who commited filicide.

I try to write clearly but I do have MS and sometimes my posts might not be 100percent but the gist was there, and anyone who had intelligence would know what I was saying.

Its a shame that people are happier to just sit and nit pick posts, but never give any ideas as to what happened to the child on the 3rd May.

If your intention was not to make fun of me, then I apologise.

why would Rachel Granada make fun of you ..shes not a mind reader .. 8-)(--)

Rachel Granada

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Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #56 on: November 07, 2013, 02:53:04 PM »
I am not here to play games. I know what is rude and what is not and emphasing a point in bold is not always considered RUDE.

I stated quickly that Amaral never did not beat anyone up certainly not the mother who commited filicide.

I try to write clearly but I do have MS and sometimes my posts might not be 100percent but the gist was there, and anyone who had intelligence would know what I was saying.

Its a shame that people are happier to just sit and nit pick posts, but never give any ideas as to what happened to the child on the 3rd May.

If your intention was not to make fun of me, then I apologise.

Hi, no I wasn't making fun of you - just trying to be helpful as I don't follow what you mean - I'm not nit-picking but you've just made the same statement again:

I stated quickly that Amaral never did not beat anyone up

Is English not your first language?

Offline Carana

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #57 on: November 07, 2013, 03:10:32 PM »
Hopefully no news is good news - as in the police are carrying out a proper investigation and the media circus has stopped. In my opinion the key to this case is going right back to the beginning and investigating the days around Madeleine's disappearance. What the key witnesses did and said. Looking at the inconsistencies and so on.

There are some key facts that have been ignored or distorted by all the media frenzy.

1. The apartment was not broken in to - there was no evidence of a break in.
2. There is no evidence of an abduction by a stranger.
3. There are conflicting accounts of what happened on the days around Madeleine's disappearance from the key witnesses.
4. The parents and friends accounts of how often and when they checked the children are inaccurate/conflicting.
5. The parents did not join in the search for their daughter on the evening of her disappearance.
6. The parents criticized the police investigation from a very early stage, despite  not joining in to look for their daughter.
7. The parents insistence that their daughter had been abducted - they think by a paedophile group -  is inconsistent with their belief that it was safe to leave their children alone in an unlocked apartment.
8. The parents alerted the media at a very early stage. They employed their own detectives who were not experts in missing children cases.
9. the parents started up a Fund using maximum publicity and with celebrity endorsement to get public money.
10,. The parents have used money from the fund to sue people who do not support their abduction by a stranger theory
11. The detective on  the case, Amaral, was wrongly accused of beating up a woman who is now in jail convicted of the murder of her 8 year old.
12. The McCann's and their friends did not take part in a reconstruction of the evening which could have helped jog people's memories.
13, Jane Tanner's testimony was not convincing - she changed her story. The abduction theory rested heavily on her 'sighting' which has now proved to be irrelevant.

Welcome. I'm guessing that this is a summary of your thoughts?

I was trying to look back on your previous posts to see the reasoning leading up to those questions, as sometimes the answers are already there.

So far, you've made 31 posts, but I can only now find 30.

In your earliest on: October 16, 2013, 11:15:49 AM, you stated:


You would not instantly jump to the conclusion that your child had been abducted by a p.a.e.dophile group. You would hope upon hope that there was a more innocent explanation. It is arguably the least likely scenario of what might have happened - although obviously it is the most dramatic and horrific. But, as I wrote before, if they considered that to be a risk then why leave young children unattended?



Was your initial post deleted? If not, what did you state before that?

Offline Candi

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #58 on: November 07, 2013, 04:13:52 PM »
how would anyone on here know ...why don't you ask kate  ....shes the only one that can answer your pathetic question ...  8-)(--)
Don't be silly Benita, i was thinking out loud and you know i was, your just being rude.  Kate McCann immediately thought her little girl had been taken, why would she leave her babies and not shout from the balcony, I'll never understand that ...  And please don't make those stupid faces at me ! 

Offline colombosstogey

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #59 on: November 07, 2013, 04:20:57 PM »
Hi, no I wasn't making fun of you - just trying to be helpful as I don't follow what you mean - I'm not nit-picking but you've just made the same statement again:

I stated quickly that Amaral never did not beat anyone up

Is English not your first language?

No it isnt its Afro-Caribbean actually originally from France.

Well as long as your not making fun of me, I am happy with that.  8((()*/

Leonora Cipriano was allegedgly beaten up by police officers who were interrogating her.

Amaral was not actually one of the officers in the room at the time, and was never implicated in her beating. He was however charged with falsifying documents and has served his time.

The mother who committed filiacide was eventually found to have lied and had an extra 7 months added to her sentence.

I surely hope that clears up what I was trying to say. I must try the harder with my eeeeenglish lessons..... 8)><(