A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?

[pathfinder73]

[Why did the McCann's not search for Madeleine on the night she is alleged to have been abducted? Kate herself in media interviews did not dispute that they did not join the search that night. Why?]

They did start searching the streets at 6am when it was all quiet and all other searchers had finished and gone home to bed.

[Mr Gray]

[Why did the McCann's not search for Madeleine on the night she is alleged to have been abducted? Kate herself in media interviews did not dispute that they did not join the search that night. Why?]

They did start searching the streets at 6am when it was all quiet and all other searchers had finished and gone to bed.

they did

[pathfinder73]

According to Kate's diary.

"FRIDAY, MAY 4: No sleep, Gerry and I started looking through the streets around 06.00 as it was starting to get light. Nobody around. Why not? Desperate."

[Mr Gray]

According to Kate's diary.

according to kates book..perhaps you just want to assume its all lies

[jassi]

according to kates book..perhaps you just want to assume its all lies

That would be going a bit far, but its only the truth as she sees it  - it may not be the whole truth.

[pathfinder73]

Lies No I don't think so!

Fiona Payne

"by Kate knocking on the door and just you know, as I said earlier, suggesting they, they couldn’t sleep, they couldn’t, they couldn’t rest and they were just, it was driving them up the wall, just sitting there and not doing anything and they wanted to go out and look and would we just keep an eye on the twins”.
1485    “Can you remember what sort of time that was roughly?”
Reply    “Erm it was still very cold and, and dark, erm I think it was you know, between five and six, I say"

[pathfinder73]

Fiona said it was cold and dark. Kate said it was getting light.

[Mr Gray]

Lies No I don't think so!

Fiona Payne

"by Kate knocking on the door and just you know, as I said earlier, suggesting they, they couldn’t sleep, they couldn’t, they couldn’t rest and they were just, it was driving them up the wall, just sitting there and not doing anything and they wanted to go out and look and would we just keep an eye on the twins”.
1485    “Can you remember what sort of time that was roughly?”
Reply    “Erm it was still very cold and, and dark, erm I think it was you know, between five and six, I say"

If you read elsewhere in the book this refers to when they went out AGAIN...makes a change from posters claiming they never searched at all

[pathfinder73]

An unusual time to want to start searching when everyone else had gone and in the dark. Some may think it's a little bit suspicious.

[Mr Gray]

An unusual time to want to start searching when everyone else had gone and in the dark. Some may think it's a little bit suspicious.

and some might not

[pathfinder73]

Agreed but I think when individuals add up the many suspicions people will start to question what they really know. What happened in these missing hours? The missing hours on the car trip. Between 6.30pm and 8.30pm, keys to the church, boot being left open, dog alerts, putting the blame on Murat etc.

[Mr Gray]

Agreed but I think when individuals add up the many suspicions people will start to question what they really know. What happened in these missing hours? The missing hours on the car trip. Between 6.30pm and 8.30pm, Keys to the church, boot being left open, dog alerts, putting the blame on Murat etc.

well I suppose when there is no evidence posters looking for guilt have to rely on the car boot being left open

[pathfinder73]

You should go straight to the source. Examine first witness statements and compare them.

MO "At around 21h25, the interviewee went into his apartment and Madeleine's apartment to check on the children. He states that the door of the bedroom quarters, that was occupied by Madeleine and the twins, was half-open and that there was enough light in the bedroom for him to see the twins in their cots." (4 May)

GM "Thus, at 9.05 pm, the deponent entered the club, using his key, the door being locked, and went to the children's bedroom and noted that the twins and Madeleine were in perfect condition. He then went to the toilet, where he remained for a few instants, left the apartment, and then crossed ways with someone with whom he had played tennis, who had a baby buggy, also a British citizen, with whom he had a brief conversation." (4 May)

[Aiofe]

And the pj are able to sue for libel if they wanted to..as they made such a mess of the investigation they would lose though IMO

The PJ could not sue easily in the UK for libel. The law requires malice to be shown rather than just error in cases where a public body is involved. Same for Amaral as he was a public servant.

[Aiofe]

What evidence are you bringing to the table that they made a mess of the investigation Dave??   Very few people know what really happened to Madeleine and I do not count the McCanns among them.

The abduction from the bed theory is dead in the water according to all the evidence which only leaves the awoke and wandered alternative if abduction is to be believed.  If that is what happened it puts the parents firmly in the frame as far a culpability is concerned and that is not libel but fact!!

That is their real fear...that by their negligence they were directly responsible for facilitating an abduction.

There is insufficient evidence to prove or disprove any scenario.

The belief that abduction was impossible is shared by a few fanatic but is unprovable.

Currently two police teams seem to be investigating abduction from the room.