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AnneGuedes

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Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #120 on: November 07, 2013, 09:11:21 PM »

And, back to basics - Kate KNEW straight away that it was an abduction - but abduction had been the one thing that they had not worried about - not at all. They are quoted as saying: 'it's so rare...it was the last thing on our minds.....if we had thought that they were at risk <from an abduction> we would not have done what we did.....

So why, given it was the 'last thing on their minds' did it suddenly become 'the first thing on their minds'.......

This would be an excellent point, hadn't the McCanns smartly claimed the shutters/window were broken/open. Nobody saw them open nor broken, but these words went around the world as the signature of an exceptionnal (i.e from bed) abduction.

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Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #121 on: November 07, 2013, 09:15:36 PM »
This would be an excellent point, hadn't the McCanns smartly claimed the shutters/window were broken/open. Nobody saw them open nor broken, but these words went around the world as the signature of an exceptionnal (i.e from bed) abduction.

 Do you have any evidence that no one saw the shutters open...sounds like another myth to me...evidence please

Offline Candi

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #122 on: November 07, 2013, 09:19:00 PM »
Unlike the McCanns - staff and other holiday makers didn't have to spend time that night talking to the police.   Neither did they have to do that most of the next day.

The parents have described when they searched and have not said they never searched.     They have not claimed to have searched once the media arrived on 4th May  -  as no doubt the police advised them not to - as they would have been mobbed by scores of reporters if they had tried.
  I respect what you are saying Benice but after they had given their statement they could have joined the  search for their little girl and i very much doubt they were shy of the media/reporters, what about all the jogging and playing tennis they were doing just days after she went missing... No if the police advised them of anything i doubt very much they would of listened..

Offline Luz

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #123 on: November 07, 2013, 09:21:47 PM »
No they didn't...another myth.....I've seen the clip and they did not say they hadn't searched...this is the sort of lies told that make so many people question the MCcanns.

This one I will not allow to pass.

Listen carefully, especially 00:47


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Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #124 on: November 07, 2013, 09:23:45 PM »
This one I will not allow to pass.

Listen carefully, especially 00:47


You are wrong again luz...I presume this is the physically searched quote

Cariad

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Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #125 on: November 07, 2013, 09:25:12 PM »
Hi Candi! So they did not use their mobiles on that night,  I haven't read this before where did this come from?

Hi Tooty, welcome to the forum! They used their phones later in the evening to call home.

P.S I love Barbados! I think the Bajans are some of the nicest people in the world.

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Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #126 on: November 07, 2013, 09:26:40 PM »
Hi Candi! So they did not use their mobiles on that night,  I haven't read this before where did this come from?
  I'm not 100% Tootypopper but i remember Clarence Mitchel making excuses why the group wasn't using their phones, i'm pretty sure it was this night..

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Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #127 on: November 07, 2013, 09:27:13 PM »
Secondly ...and I would like an answer but wont get one... WHAT EVIDENCE did the pj have to make these accusations


A missing child

No sign of forced entry

A trace of blood (which at that time had not been fully analysed) In the apartment where the child was last seen alive.

Conflicting witness testimonies by the group who last saw the child alive.
(Total incoherence results from the GROUP’s statements, which makes it easy to verify that everyone lies.)

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #128 on: November 07, 2013, 09:31:33 PM »
This one I will not allow to pass.

Listen carefully, especially 00:47


 I have listened again... the mccanns..both of them...searched on the night Maddie wnt missing..that is documented..after that they didn't ...what person would expect them to..to say they never searched is untrue

Offline Luz

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #129 on: November 07, 2013, 09:31:54 PM »
Do you have any evidence that no one saw the shutters open...sounds like another myth to me...evidence please


It's you that must show that there is evidence that the shutters were broken and/or the window broken, since there is not a single testimony supporting it, on the contrary - even Mitchel had to admit in an interview that the shutters had not been jemmied.

But I'll help you. As I know you detest this videos I'll point the essentials.

First a reporter after contacting Mark Warners: 1:10 - 1:23

After, Mitchel acknowledges there was no forced entry: 1:40 - 2:00


Offline Mr Gray

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #130 on: November 07, 2013, 09:34:59 PM »

A missing child

No sign of forced entry

A trace of blood (which at that time had not been fully analysed) In the apartment where the child was last seen alive.

Conflicting witness testimonies by the group who last saw the child alive.
(Total incoherence results from the GROUP’s statements, which makes it easy to verify that everyone lies.)

 Its taken a long time for you to come up with this..

missing child....evidence of abduction as well
no sign forced entry..patio doors open
conflicting testimonies...language barrier ...translations


Very good...basically they had nothing...thanks for the confirmation

AnneGuedes

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Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #131 on: November 07, 2013, 09:36:22 PM »
This one I will not allow to pass.

Listen carefully, especially 00:47
She knew the child had been abducted and was like in fairy tales out the UE borders, so why would one expect her to scream A horse, a horse, my kingdom for a horse ?

Cariad

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Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #132 on: November 07, 2013, 09:36:35 PM »
Hi Caraid and thanks for the welcome, yes Barbados rocks and we try and get over there at least once a year to see the family.

I just don't know what to make of this case surely some of the people in the group would have confessed by now if there was wrongdoing. The Scotland Yard guy said that they are not suspects or of interest.

Read everything you can and question everything you're told at least twice  8)--)) It's possible we'll never find out what happened, but you'll form your own opinions over time too.


Offline Mr Gray

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #133 on: November 07, 2013, 09:38:31 PM »
She knew the child had been abducted and was like in fairy tales out the UE borders, so why would one expect her to scream A horse, a horse, my kingdom for a horse ?

 another post that makes absolutely no sense

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #134 on: November 07, 2013, 09:39:21 PM »
Its taken a long time for you to come up with this..

missing child....evidence of abduction as well
no sign forced entry..patio doors open
conflicting testimonies...language barrier ...translations


Very good...basically they had nothing...thanks for the confirmation

And the trace of blood?
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