A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?

[Mr Gray]

No, Davel, she signed a statement written in portuguese after hearing its translation into current english by the same interpret who had translated her statement into portuguese, phrase after phrase, slowly and with the constant possibility to go backwards, to ask for changes or to deny totally.

Not No..Yes..she signed a statement written in Portuguese and has to take the interpreters word for what she was signing...Kate said in her book the interpreter made lots of mistakes..so she couldn't have been that good

[AnneGuedes]

It's always been my opinion that apart from having their daughter abducted, the next worst thing that happened to them was the language barrier.   That whole situation was wide open for errors and misunderstandings on both sides IMO.

As there is no evidence for the first, there's also no evidence for the second "worst".
The British FLO arrived on the 5th.

[drummer]

I would imagine that word after word was more appropriate than phrase after phrase.

[AnneGuedes]

Not No..Yes..she signed a statement written in Portuguese and has to take the interpreters word for what she was signing...Kate said in her book the interpreter made lots of mistakes..so she couldn't have been that good

Doubting Mrs McCann is a sin and believing the interpreter another one !
Mrs McCann may tell all what she feels like, I don't mind it at all. What I do mind is her will to be believed and to threaten the rebels.

[Benita]

Ah, here we are back to pesky semantics - what is the truth, what is a lie? What is the truth of the lie as Amaral might say?

But - when in doubt watch the body language. Watch the body language of the McCanns in the media interviews. Listen to Kate's account of what she thought and saw when she went into Madeleine's room and found her missing? Rich in clues. There are some excellent analyses of her witness statements on the web which explore the nuances behind the words used, sentence structure, phrases and so on.

Fascinating.

hi j.rob ...you change your socks a lot dontcha ....oh dear 

[j.rob]

Why is it that everyone else gets it wrong? But Kate and Gerry always get it right. Any witnesses that do not support their version of events are wrong, or have made mistakes or are lying? Or are being mean to them or hate them?

And our press have been gagged over this.....but the truth must out, eventually.

[AnneGuedes]

Why is it that everyone else gets it wrong? But Kate and Gerry always get it right. Any witnesses that do not support their version of events are wrong, or have made mistakes or are lying? Or are being mean to them or hate them?

And our press have been gagged over this.....but the truth must out, eventually.

Sects function this way. There's in the background a very strong will to believe.

[Mr Gray]

Doubting Mrs McCann is a sin and believing the interpreter another one !
Mrs McCann may tell all what she feels like, I don't mind it at all. What I do mind is her will to be believed and to threaten the rebels.

 Well I  believe her..

[Redblossom]

Well I  believe her..

At least no one castigates you for it.....whereas......anyone who doesnt is a bad person and all the other ridiculous and irrational accusations...and disgusting name calling dor holding a belief or a view or informed decision on any aspect of this case.......last time I looked the thought police were not a reality....except in a novel and some sci fi films.....its made doubly worse with the quasi religious pontificating language.....yes cult like I would say in many instances....

 


Edited for afterthought

[Cariad]

Well I  believe her..

Are you personally acquainted with Mrs McCann davel? (Genuine question, not criticising or having a pop at you about anything, just plain old curiosity and more than happy to accept a 'none of your business as a reply)

[j.rob]

Yes sects and cults do function in this way. And there is more than a whiff of both in this case encompassing as it does religion, medicine, professionals working in a large politicized institution - the NHS and so on.  I also think the fact that the McCanns and their friends are doctors is highly significant to this case. In all sorts of ways.

My other opinion is that I do believe the McCanns were telling the truth (or at least partially) with respect to 'she was taken' 'we know what happened'. 'I immediately knew'.........that is because I do believe they DID know what happened........only they chose to give a different version of the events......

[Redblossom]

Yes sects and cults do function in this way. And there is more than a whiff of both in this case encompassing as it does religion, medicine, professionals working in a large politicized institution - the NHS and so on.  I also think the fact that the McCanns and their friends are doctors is highly significant to this case. In all sorts of ways.

My other opinion is that I do believe the McCanns were telling the truth (or at least partially) with respect to 'she was taken' 'we know what happened'. 'I immediately knew'.........that is because I do believe they DID know what happened........only they chose to give a different version of the events......

Theyve taken her...quoted by david payne and charlotte penningtin the nanny
The b........s took her...apparently said by KM according ti a newspaper article recently by a couple who were staying two floors above on the night
A couple took her..said to social worker yvonne martin the next morning


what did KM have in her mind to utter those words..who was she referring to?  you got me thnking now...

[AnneGuedes]

Yes sects and cults do function in this way. And there is more than a whiff of both in this case encompassing as it does religion, medicine, professionals working in a large politicized institution - the NHS and so on.  I also think the fact that the McCanns and their friends are doctors is highly significant to this case. In all sorts of ways.

My other opinion is that I do believe the McCanns were telling the truth (or at least partially) with respect to 'she was taken' 'we know what happened'. 'I immediately knew'.........that is because I do believe they DID know what happened........only they chose to give a different version of the events......

Yes, a scientific formation and religious feeling but combined, surprisingly, with a highly  irrational thinking : Mrs McCann asking to investigate a certain boat because a friend of a friend of an aunt or uncle had a vision.. the insistence in the magic hairbox hunter... her calling inspector Sigmund Paiva to tell a dream... Madeleine's photo presented to the pope for benediction.. and all sorts of sombre clairvoyantes whose e-mails were piously sent to the PJ..

[Aiofe]

Do you think so? I imagine he's just glad to have slid back into relative obscurity.

Having acquired headlines clearing him and several hundred thousand pounds.

[Aiofe]

Why is it that everyone else gets it wrong? But Kate and Gerry always get it right. Any witnesses that do not support their version of events are wrong, or have made mistakes or are lying? Or are being mean to them or hate them?

And our press have been gagged over this.....but the truth must out, eventually.

How exactly have the Press been gagged?