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Aiofe

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Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #405 on: November 10, 2013, 03:09:01 AM »
Sects function this way. There's in the background a very strong will to believe.

The beliefs and behaviours of both Pros and [ censored word] are sect like.

Offline j.rob

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #406 on: November 10, 2013, 07:53:09 AM »
Hehe - I wonder what cult I am in - oh, I know the 'anti-McCann cult' I suppose.

Except I am not. I am interested in the facts of the case......but the facts disappeared very early on.....and became myths and words came out of peoples' mouths that were.....oh, here we go again! Were they truth, were they lies, or even were they other peoples' words.......

But what about Carter Ruck........upthread I think Aiofe mentioned something about how little they had had to do with the McCanns.....really, they were just little pussy-cats, tinkering around on the edges., trying to protect the McCanns' feelings.

But - what about the Express case - that was quite a biggy for them, wasn't it? I mean, the McCanns too, right? Then you have Tony Bennett - that was quite a biggy too, right? . And what about Amaral - now whether you love him or not, he is a detective with many years experience. He did a pretty good job of convicting those nasty child killers in the Joanna case, despite the mother making up a pack of lies about him.

So Carter Ruck are working pro-bono are they? How fascinating! Why would they do that? What is the Fund money for?

Offline j.rob

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #407 on: November 10, 2013, 08:01:21 AM »
The beliefs and behaviours of both Pros and [ censored word] are sect like.

You guys crack me up - really, you are hilarious!

So now we have two camps, do we? The Pros and the [ censored word].....haha! And both camps are operating like sects.......

Hilarious!

Okay - what about people who switch sides - once they believed the McCanns and now they don't? Where do they fit in. You know, people whose minds are not fixed into a certain belief system. There must be a few around.

I don't know - all these words, myths, truths, lies and sects - they float around in the air like clouds of dust, confusing people, poisoning their minds.


Offline j.rob

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #408 on: November 10, 2013, 08:05:44 AM »
oooops!! But maybe my mind is already poisoned - I do not believe the McCanns - so that must make me a person with a dirty mind.....

Oh, SIGH!!

At least I can cling on to my belief system, when all else fails!

stephen25000

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Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #409 on: November 10, 2013, 08:11:23 AM »
It appears that the webmaster for rthe 'OFFICIAL' missing Madeleine site on facebook is refusing to answer questions about the latest 'sighting', i.e. the Smith one.

Now why is that ?

and since they apparently withheld the 'sighting' for 5 years, how can the mccanns or their representatives  be trusted ?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #410 on: November 10, 2013, 08:15:03 AM »
Why is it that everyone else gets it wrong? But Kate and Gerry always get it right. Any witnesses that do not support their version of events are wrong, or have made mistakes or are lying? Or are being mean to them or hate them?

And our press have been gagged over this.....but the truth must out, eventually.

 You say the press has been gagged...you say you go with the evidence..what evidence do you have that the press has been gagged

stephen25000

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Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #411 on: November 10, 2013, 08:18:47 AM »
oooops!! But maybe my mind is already poisoned - I do not believe the McCanns - so that must make me a person with a dirty mind.....

Oh, SIGH!!

At least I can cling on to my belief system, when all else fails!

Oh I know, there are naughty people who don't believe the mccanns.

How terrible.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #412 on: November 10, 2013, 08:24:02 AM »
Oh I know, there are naughty people who don't believe the mccanns.

How terrible.

 The important thing to do is look at the evidence..and I know whats coming next

Offline jassi

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #413 on: November 10, 2013, 08:52:27 AM »
I find that life becomes much easier if one just accepts that there are believers , non-believers and some in between. and just don't get uptight about it. This constant attempt to refute anything and everything is just tiresome.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #414 on: November 10, 2013, 09:00:31 AM »
I find that life becomes much easier if one just accepts that there are believers , non-believers and some in between. and just don't get uptight about it. This constant attempt to refute anything and everything is just tiresome.

 Isnt that what this forum is about...discussing what is..and isn't true

Offline jassi

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #415 on: November 10, 2013, 09:19:42 AM »
Isnt that what this forum is about...discussing what is..and isn't true

It should be, but it often goes far beyond that, sometimes to the point of being ridiculous.
A sensible discussion shouldn't end up in exchanges of abuse.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #416 on: November 10, 2013, 09:21:06 AM »
It should be, but it often goes far beyond that, sometimes to the point of being ridiculous.
A sensible discussion shouldn't end up in exchanges of abuse.

 I would agree with that

Aiofe

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Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #417 on: November 10, 2013, 09:26:30 AM »
Re McCann's relationship with Carter Ruck:

No-Win, No-Fee – No More?
Posted on January 13, 2012 by Isabel Martorell
In 1999, changes to the rules on litigation funding opened up the possibility of bringing a wide range of cases under Conditional Fee Agreements (or ‘no-win, no-fee agreements’ as they are colloquially known).    At a time of legal aid cuts, the changes were intended to ensure access to justice for all; not just for the wealthy.

Carter-Ruck was one of the firms which pioneered a CFA scheme which over the years has allowed us to act for hundreds of litigants who would not otherwise have been able to afford to bring an action.

Initially, the majority of these cases were for libel, but we have acted on a no-win, no-fee basis in a number of other types of claim. Merely by way of example:

> A class action by 45 individual claimants against two multi-national Banks for their part in the negligent mis-selling of a pension product that the claimants had purchased. The claim concerned a failed UK pension liberation scheme and offshore trust and administration services and was worth in excess of £20 million.

> A privacy claim for a soldier’s wife whose photograph was used by the Daily Mirror – entirely misleadingly – to illustrate a story about women being unfaithful to their husbands while serving in Iraq.

> A local councillor on incapacity benefits, who suffered serial libel and harassment over several years by a multi-millionaire businessman who accused her of theft and corruption.

> A breach of contract claim against a company which had failed to pay commissions earned by a sales agent.

> A claim for a retired academic against a record company, for breaching copyrights he held in four music editions and for refusing to acknowledge his rights or to pay him royalties.

> A (defendant) Danish radiologist sued for libel by US conglomerate GE Healthcare over allegations concerning one of its products.

> A Muslim IT worker whom the Daily Mail falsely alleged was to be suspected of unlawfully stabbing a man at his house and of being a supporter of Al Qaeda.

> A comprehensive school teacher, falsely accused in an internal Memorandum of inappropriate contact with female pupils.

> Kate and Gerry McCann.



http://www.carter-ruck.com/Blog/?p=180

Aiofe

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Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #418 on: November 10, 2013, 09:29:12 AM »
The McCanns gave evidence to Leveson that it was their Conditional Fee agreement with Carter Ruck that allowed them to Sue the Express Group:

http://www.theguardian.com/law/2012/mar/26/mccanns-cameron-media-libel-legal-aid

Aiofe

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Re: A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?
« Reply #419 on: November 10, 2013, 09:33:25 AM »