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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Has support for Amaral and the Mccanns reached devotion by their supporter
« Reply #105 on: November 09, 2013, 08:49:43 AM »
Thanks. 
What I wrote was not that they perhaps 'knew', but that they might 'believe they knew', which is not quite the same thing. I recognise that investigations can go down a wrong track because officers become fixated with a particular theory.

McCann v Gonçalo Amaral libel hearing witness Moita Flores.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2765.0


SO – What reason did you have to comment on this case?

MF says that first it is his job.  He does it professionally because he has experience of being a police inspector and has connections with the police. In this particular case he says that very early he claimed that the police were making errors.

SO – Why?

MF Because they should have considered all the possible hypotheses instead of restricting the investigation to the prefabricated idea of abduction.
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Aiofe

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Re: Has support for Amaral and the Mccanns reached devotion by their supporters ?
« Reply #106 on: November 09, 2013, 08:54:08 AM »
Read it already.

it is of no consequence whatsoever.

Honourable people do not place their children at risk from unnecessary danger.

That is your view. I am sure that many honourable people make errors.

This is just bias on your part.

stephen25000

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Re: Has support for Amaral and the Mccanns reached devotion by their supporters ?
« Reply #107 on: November 09, 2013, 08:55:12 AM »
That is your view. I am sure that many honourable people make errors.

This is just bias on your part.

No merely the bias on yours defending what they did.

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Re: Has support for Amaral and the Mccanns reached devotion by their supporters ?
« Reply #108 on: November 09, 2013, 08:56:54 AM »
Leaving the children was not an 'error'. It was appalling.

It was repeated for several successive nights.

If Madeleine's disappearance followed her parents absence, it was the primary cause of subsequent events.

If it was repeated for several nights, then it cannot be a prime cause of Madeleine's disappearance.

For something to be a prime cause it is necessary that 'A' the cause happens prior to the event 'B' and that 'B' cannot happen without 'A' and 'B' always happens when 'A' precedes it. (cite- Aristotle and David Hume.)

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Re: Has support for Amaral and the Mccanns reached devotion by their supporters ?
« Reply #109 on: November 09, 2013, 08:59:32 AM »
No merely the bias on yours defending what they did.

This displays your stupidity. Where did I defend what they did. I have said that their childcare was dreadful that holiday and that I would never have done that.

Despite that error, I see no reason to doubt their honour.

I do not particularly warm to them, but I do believe that people have the right to act within the law however stupid that decision is. They broke no laws.

stephen25000

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Re: Has support for Amaral and the Mccanns reached devotion by their supporters ?
« Reply #110 on: November 09, 2013, 09:07:55 AM »
This displays your stupidity. Where did I defend what they did. I have said that their childcare was dreadful that holiday and that I would never have done that.

Despite that error, I see no reason to doubt their honour.

I do not particularly warm to them, but I do believe that people have the right to act within the law however stupid that decision is. They broke no laws.

Insults yet again.

Surprise, surprise.

Your behaviour patterns if nothing else are consistent.

Aiofe

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Re: Has support for Amaral and the Mccanns reached devotion by their supporters ?
« Reply #111 on: November 09, 2013, 09:30:51 AM »
Insults yet again.

Surprise, surprise.

Your behaviour patterns if nothing else are consistent.

It was not an insult, it was an observation of your ability to process information and formulate a rational response.

And then you use bluster to avoid what I actually said about your statement:

YOU: "No merely the bias on yours defending what they did."

ME: "Where did I defend what they did. I have said that their childcare was dreadful that holiday and that I would never have done that.

Despite that error, I see no reason to doubt their honour.

I do not particularly warm to them, but I do believe that people have the right to act within the law however stupid that decision is. They broke no laws."

Now try addressing that rather than blustering to avoid it.

stephen25000

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Re: Has support for Amaral and the Mccanns reached devotion by their supporters ?
« Reply #112 on: November 09, 2013, 09:35:58 AM »
It was not an insult, it was an observation of your ability to process information and formulate a rational response.

And then you use bluster to avoid what I actually said about your statement:

YOU: "No merely the bias on yours defending what they did."

ME: "Where did I defend what they did. I have said that their childcare was dreadful that holiday and that I would never have done that.

Despite that error, I see no reason to doubt their honour.

I do not particularly warm to them, but I do believe that people have the right to act within the law however stupid that decision is. They broke no laws."

Now try addressing that rather than blustering to avoid it.

it is an insult and a result of your over dressed ego, which results invariably in insulting other posters.

It has happened before and will happen again, irrespective of which user name you adopt as C.Edwards accurately pointed out.


Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Has support for Amaral and the Mccanns reached devotion by their supporter
« Reply #113 on: November 09, 2013, 09:37:34 AM »
It was not an insult, it was an observation of your ability to process information and formulate a rational response.

And then you use bluster to avoid what I actually said about your statement:

YOU: "No merely the bias on yours defending what they did."

ME: "Where did I defend what they did. I have said that their childcare was dreadful that holiday and that I would never have done that.

Despite that error, I see no reason to doubt their honour.

I do not particularly warm to them, but I do believe that people have the right to act within the law however stupid that decision is. They broke no laws."

Now try addressing that rather than blustering to avoid it.

I see no reason to doubt their honour.


Intercalary report compiled by chief inspector Tavares de Almeida, for the attention of the Criminal Investigation Coordinator Gonçalo Amaral

"Total incoherence results from the GROUP’s statements, which makes it easy to verify that everyone lies."

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id315.html

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id136.html

Pamela Fenn, who resides on the residential block's first floor, above the apartment that was occupied by the McCann family, clarified that on the 1st of May 2007, two days before her disappearance, at around 10.30 p.m., she heard a child crying, which from the sound would be MADELEINE and that she cried for an hour and fifteen minutes, until her parents arrived, at around 11.57 p.m.
 
This shows that the parents were not persistently worried about their children [and] that they didn't check on them like they afterwards declared they did.

« Last Edit: November 09, 2013, 10:14:19 AM by Wonderfulspam »
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Re: Has support for Amaral and the Mccanns reached devotion by their supporters ?
« Reply #114 on: November 09, 2013, 10:00:43 AM »
it is an insult and a result of your over dressed ego, which results invariably in insulting other posters.

It has happened before and will happen again, irrespective of which user name you adopt as C.Edwards accurately pointed out.



Still blustering rather than addressing the issue you started- my view of the McCanns. Just because I do not conform to your prejudiced view, you will not respond to it. Keep whistling.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has support for Amaral and the Mccanns reached devotion by their supporters ?
« Reply #115 on: November 09, 2013, 10:05:31 AM »
As I have said I see no devotion by pros but I have seen a group who have designated a day...to be called amaral day... the only people who have days named after them are saints. I have seen nothing approaching this level by McCann supporters

Aiofe

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Re: Has support for Amaral and the Mccanns reached devotion by their supporters ?
« Reply #116 on: November 09, 2013, 10:09:02 AM »
I see no reason to doubt their honour.


Intercalary report compiled by chief inspector Tavares de Almeida, for the attention of the Criminal Investigation Coordinator Gonçalo Amaral

"Total incoherence results from the GROUP’s statements, which makes it easy to verify that everyone lies."

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id315.html

Pamela Fenn, who resides on the residential block's first floor, above the apartment that was occupied by the McCann family, clarified that on the 1st of May 2007, two days before her disappearance, at around 10.30 p.m., she heard a child crying, which from the sound would be MADELEINE and that she cried for an hour and fifteen minutes, until her parents arrived, at around 11.57 p.m.
 
This shows that the parents were not persistently worried about their children [and] that they didn't check on them like they afterwards declared they did.



You have provided a precis of the words of the report and given the incorrect URL.

Mrs Fenn's statement is at:

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id331.html

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Has support for Amaral and the Mccanns reached devotion by their supporter
« Reply #117 on: November 09, 2013, 10:15:03 AM »
I see no reason to doubt their honour.


Intercalary report compiled by chief inspector Tavares de Almeida, for the attention of the Criminal Investigation Coordinator Gonçalo Amaral

"Total incoherence results from the GROUP’s statements, which makes it easy to verify that everyone lies."

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id315.html

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id136.html

Pamela Fenn, who resides on the residential block's first floor, above the apartment that was occupied by the McCann family, clarified that on the 1st of May 2007, two days before her disappearance, at around 10.30 p.m., she heard a child crying, which from the sound would be MADELEINE and that she cried for an hour and fifteen minutes, until her parents arrived, at around 11.57 p.m.
 
This shows that the parents were not persistently worried about their children [and] that they didn't check on them like they afterwards declared they did.
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Offline BigFatBlonde

Re: Has support for Amaral and the Mccanns reached devotion by their supporters ?
« Reply #118 on: November 09, 2013, 10:34:54 AM »
As I have said I see no devotion by pros but I have seen a group who have designated a day...to be called amaral day... the only people who have days named after them are saints. I have seen nothing approaching this level by McCann supporters

Slightly inaccurate - for example MLK has a day named after him.

That said it does seem a bit odd that someone would want to have an Amaral day.

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has support for Amaral and the Mccanns reached devotion by their supporters ?
« Reply #119 on: November 09, 2013, 10:52:44 AM »
Slightly inaccurate - for example MLK has a day named after him.

That said it does seem a bit odd that someone would want to have an Amaral day.

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Well you have missed it this year...oct 2nd..we had a little celebration out of respect