The Real Jeremy Bamber

[Nicholas]

Hybristophilia is the term for women who are attracted to those behind bars. His, one time, "Hooray Henry" looks would have been a huge attraction -and to some, evidence of his innocence- and an enticement to help him in any way possible.

How does ‘Hybristophilia’ apply to all those who believe/believed Bamber to be innocent?

’Hybristophilia’ is a paraphilia in which sexual arousal, facilitation, and attainment of orgasm are responsive to and contingent upon being with a partner known to have committed an outrage, cheating, lying, known infidelities, or crime—such as rape, murder, or armed robbery
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybristophilia

“Hybristophilia is one of countless paraphilias, or abnormal and/or extreme sexual desires. “Basically, it’s a sexual attraction to someone who’s committed some sort of outrageous and extraordinary crime,” says Jeffrey Ian Ross, PhD, criminologist and professor at the University of Baltimore. Think: mass murderers, sexual murderers, and cult leaders.
https://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/a27397635/ted-bundy-hybristophilia-definition/

[Holly Goodhead]

And yet Jeremy claims not to have had that.

The research shows more females search than males and they do so earlier.

[APRIL]

How does ‘Hybristophilia’ apply to all those who believe/believed Bamber to be innocent?

’Hybristophilia’ is a paraphilia in which sexual arousal, facilitation, and attainment of orgasm are responsive to and contingent upon being with a partner known to have committed an outrage, cheating, lying, known infidelities, or crime—such as rape, murder, or armed robbery
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybristophilia

“Hybristophilia is one of countless paraphilias, or abnormal and/or extreme sexual desires. “Basically, it’s a sexual attraction to someone who’s committed some sort of outrageous and extraordinary crime,” says Jeffrey Ian Ross, PhD, criminologist and professor at the University of Baltimore. Think: mass murderers, sexual murderers, and cult leaders.
https://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/a27397635/ted-bundy-hybristophilia-definition/

Like nymphomania, hybristophilia is a term applied. Both are generals as opposed to particulars.

[Nicholas]

Like nymphomania, hybristophilia is a term applied. Both are generals as opposed to particulars.

So how does ‘hybristophilia’ apply to those who believe or believed in Bamber’s innocence; that was the term you applied.

You posted the following

Hybristophilia is the term for women who are attracted to those behind bars. His, one time, "Hooray Henry" looks would have been a huge attraction -and to some, evidence of his innocence- and an enticement to help him in any way possible.

in response to

There appears to be many women he’s done this to since being in prison.

I suppose now he’s aged (quite badly too, I read) he’s having to communicate with whoever writes to him, which must anger him inside

Are there any other women on here who’ve suffered the same disgraceful behaviour from Jeremy Bamaber when he’s realised he can no longer use them?

[Caroline]

The research shows more females search than males and they do so earlier.

Sheila. didn't search until later - but it's not the searching, it's the the denial of wanting to but then doing do. when he was in the shit.

[APRIL]

So how does ‘hybristophilia’ apply to those who believe or believed in Bamber’s innocence; that was the term you applied.

You posted the following
in response to

According to my post, I used the term "attracted to", which has very different meaning from "believing/believed".

[Caroline]

So how does ‘hybristophilia’ apply to those who believe or believed in Bamber’s innocence; that was the term you applied.

You posted the following
in response to

I must say, he never tried to use me - other than to sound off to and claim he would be free very soon. Maybe it depends on what you write to him. about, I always stuck to the case.

[Nicholas]

According to my post, I used the term "attracted to", which has very different meaning from "believing/believed".

I don’t know if you were ‘attracted to’ Bamber or not but you once ‘believed’ in his innocence

My question was,

‘How does ‘hybristophilia’ apply to those who believe or believed in Bamber’s innocence ?

Here’s the original post

How does ‘Hybristophilia’ apply to all those who believe/believed Bamber to be innocent?

’Hybristophilia’ is a paraphilia in which sexual arousal, facilitation, and attainment of orgasm are responsive to and contingent upon being with a partner known to have committed an outrage, cheating, lying, known infidelities, or crime—such as rape, murder, or armed robbery
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybristophilia

“Hybristophilia is one of countless paraphilias, or abnormal and/or extreme sexual desires. “Basically, it’s a sexual attraction to someone who’s committed some sort of outrageous and extraordinary crime,” says Jeffrey Ian Ross, PhD, criminologist and professor at the University of Baltimore. Think: mass murderers, sexual murderers, and cult leaders.
https://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/a27397635/ted-bundy-hybristophilia-definition/

[Nicholas]

Like nymphomania, hybristophilia is a term applied. Both are generals as opposed to particulars.

‘Nymphomania is a type of compulsive disorder marked by mental and emotional imbalance
whereas ‘Hybristophilia’ is a paraphilia

This article https://wellcomecollection.org/articles/W_v8XxQAACgA_WKS suggests, ‘These days, the concept has morphed into the term hypersexuality.

[Nicholas]

I must say, he never tried to use me - other than to sound off to and claim he would be free very soon. Maybe it depends on what you write to him. about, I always stuck to the case.

April didn’t say anything in her ‘ hybristophilia‘ post about Bamber using people?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I've no idea what you mean by blood markers?

LCN DNA tests of the type carried out at appeal  are not even capable of identifying the biological source eg blood, saliva, semen etc.

The scientists found a number of bands (not blood markers) were attributable to SC but this is hardly surprising when all human beings are 99.9% identical in their genetic makeup.  Yes we are all only 0.01% different to JB in our genetic makeup!

It has been pointed out to you numerous times that the scientists and appeal court judges concluded the following about the LCN DNA tests:

497. We, therefore, consider the matter on the basis that the conclusions to be drawn from the DNA evidence are:

i) June Bamber's DNA was in the sound moderator at the time of the DNA examination;

ii) Sheila Caffell's DNA may have been in the sound moderator but it was not possible to conclude one way or the other whether it was; and

iii) there was evidence of DNA from at least one male.

http://www.homepage-link.to/justice/judgements/Bamber/index.html

Holly, if you don’t know forensic SCIENTISTS found THIRTEEN markers (out of 20) in the blood fake in the silencer, and established they belonged to SHEILA; and if you don’t know at the appeal, with improved forensic testing they found SEVENTEEN markers of Sheila’s which meant it was a TRILLION TO ONE that blood could’ve belonged to anyone else except Sheila, you shouldn’t be commenting because you can’t have read (or digested) the scientific FACTS.

All you need do is read the documents and you’ll find the report, OK?

[Nicholas]

According to my post, I used the term "attracted to", which has very different meaning from "believing/believed".

One or two of your posts appear to have been removed ?

But no I do not believe SF was a fantasist

One of Poppy Ann Millers blogs headed, ‘Keeping Up Appearances’ refers to SF http://jeremybambercampaigner.blogspot.com/2013/01/of-sound-mind.html
as does this thread http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=193.0

It appears obvious why she’s been smeared the way she has & by who.

Was surprised to see you appearing to blame her for Bamber’s inactions/bs/gaslighting or whatever you want to call it

He gaslights and he recruits others to gaslight on his behalf, they are referred to as enablers. The pattern is always the same

‘Gaslighting is an insidious erosion of your sense of reality; it creates a mental fog of epic proportions in the twisted “funhouse” of smoke, mirrors, and distortions that is an abusive relationship. When a malignant narcissist gaslights you, they engage in crazymaking discussions and character assassinations..
https://blogs.psychcentral.com/recovering-narcissist/2019/03/7-gaslighting-phrases-malignant-narcissists-sociopaths-and-psychopaths-use-translated/

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I've no idea what you mean by blood markers?

LCN DNA tests of the type carried out at appeal  are not even capable of identifying the biological source eg blood, saliva, semen etc.

The scientists found a number of bands (not blood markers) were attributable to SC but this is hardly surprising when all human beings are 99.9% identical in their genetic makeup.  Yes we are all only 0.01% different to JB in our genetic makeup!

It has been pointed out to you numerous times that the scientists and appeal court judges concluded the following about the LCN DNA tests:

497. We, therefore, consider the matter on the basis that the conclusions to be drawn from the DNA evidence are:

i) June Bamber's DNA was in the sound moderator at the time of the DNA examination;

ii) Sheila Caffell's DNA may have been in the sound moderator but it was not possible to conclude one way or the other whether it was; and

iii) there was evidence of DNA from at least one male.

http://www.homepage-link.to/justice/judgements/Bamber/index.html

We’re not all made up of the same DNA at all: if that were the case they wouldn’t be take swabs for DNA.

I have markers in my blood which is shared ONLY by relatives and ancestors. Besides a English, I have Scandinavian, some Southern Italian and Greek — and I’ve traced some of my ancestors and second/third cousins who share the same markers as mine.

When Sheila’s blood was first forensically tested in 1985 they found THIRTEEN markers that could have only come from Sheila. They knew that by taking a sample of Sheila’s biological mother’s blood.

However, the 13 markers wasn’t concrete proof it was Sheila’s, but it was enough to deeply suggest it WAS her blood. The judge was duty bound to tell the jury it wasn’t proven to be Sheila’s blood, but the 13 markers suggested it most likely was.

Years later at the appeal court, they discovered SEVENTEEN of Sheila’s markers, which indeed proved that it WAS her blood.

I’m tired of repeating myself. It’s all their in the documents. Please refresh yourself with the facts.

To be honest, I don’t know why you’re bothering, there’s absolutely nothing whatsoever to even even suggest Sheila was the murderer and Jeremy was innocent, nothing.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

But the overall conclusion was that the tests were "completely meaningless" as they were not capable of establishing how the DNA came to be in the silencer.

A while back you said they couldn’t even detect DNA in 1985, and now you’re quoting court documents which prove June’s DNA was inside the silencer...

The only reason they couldn’t absolutely prove Sheila’s was, is due to what I’ve previously explained to you in the simplest possible way

They only found 13 of Sheila’s markers, which weren’t enough to categorically prove it was — it suggested it was.

Again, I repeat for the last time, they later discovered SEVENTEEN of Sheila’s markers in that same blood flake, which was categoric proof it WAS Sheila’s blood. What don’t you understand about that?

[Nicholas]

One or two of your posts appear to have been removed ?

But no I do not believe SF was a fantasist

One of Poppy Ann Millers blogs headed, ‘Keeping Up Appearances’ refers to SF http://jeremybambercampaigner.blogspot.com/2013/01/of-sound-mind.html
as does this thread http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=193.0

It appears obvious why she’s been smeared the way she has & by who.

Was surprised to see you appearing to blame her for Bamber’s inactions/bs/gaslighting or whatever you want to call it

He gaslights and he recruits others to gaslight on his behalf, they are referred to as enablers. The pattern is always the same

‘Gaslighting is an insidious erosion of your sense of reality; it creates a mental fog of epic proportions in the twisted “funhouse” of smoke, mirrors, and distortions that is an abusive relationship. When a malignant narcissist gaslights you, they engage in crazymaking discussions and character assassinations..
https://blogs.psychcentral.com/recovering-narcissist/2019/03/7-gaslighting-phrases-malignant-narcissists-sociopaths-and-psychopaths-use-translated/

It’s Poppy Ann Miller who appears to be the fantasist

‘I say all of this not to persecute her. Her own extended relatives and a wider community did enough of that when she was alive. It isn’t about apportioning blame and pointing the finger – but it is about establishing fact, and the fact is that contrary to the popular belief of 1985, Sheila was capable of harming her children..