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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The Real Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #180 on: April 17, 2020, 06:21:16 PM »
Has JB lied?

I believe JB stole from the family firm as June was withholding payments until he 'learned to live properly'. This was no doubt her objection to him having sexual relationships outside of marriage.  He was 24 yoa and his income should not have been dependent on perfectly acceptable lifestyle choices.
JB has changed his story so many times it seems some of what he has said must be lies, and some of it is certainly contradicted by other witnesses so I would say yes, he has lied, and he has also stolen and he has also been involved in drugs, the growing and sale of.  But you think he’s a reliable witness. Interesting.
Not a handwriting expert.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: The Real Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #181 on: April 17, 2020, 06:58:12 PM »
JB has changed his story so many times it seems some of what he has said must be lies, and some of it is certainly contradicted by other witnesses so I would say yes, he has lied, and he has also stolen and he has also been involved in drugs, the growing and sale of.  But you think he’s a reliable witness. Interesting.

I think he surrounds himself with people who fill his head with rubbish.  Eg his recent claim that he has an alibi re the movement at the window.  I believe this resulted in BC calling him out.

As my friend says 'We all have our poison"!  JB's was cannabis.  He had the means and wherewithal to grow for own use and sold it to mainly persons known for a small profit but interestingly although much was made about OCP in his police interviews and at trial not a word about the cannabis.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Caroline

Re: The Real Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #182 on: April 17, 2020, 07:15:47 PM »
I think he surrounds himself with people who fill his head with rubbish.  Eg his recent claim that he has an alibi re the movement at the window.  I believe this resulted in BC calling him out.

As my friend says 'We all have our poison"!  JB's was cannabis.  He had the means and wherewithal to grow for own use and sold it to mainly persons known for a small profit but interestingly although much was made about OCP in his police interviews and at trial not a word about the cannabis.

What's the cannabis got to do with anything?

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Real Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #183 on: April 17, 2020, 07:19:18 PM »
I think he surrounds himself with people who fill his head with rubbish.  Eg his recent claim that he has an alibi re the movement at the window. 

Barry George’s sister Michelle Diskin Bates claims to have seen this on all night TV

Is she filling Bamber’s head with rubbish like you claim?

I think he surrounds himself with people who fill his head with rubbish.
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Real Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #184 on: April 17, 2020, 07:21:25 PM »
I think he surrounds himself with people who fill his head with rubbish.

What rubbish has Aunt Agatha filled his head with?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Caroline

Re: The Real Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #185 on: April 17, 2020, 07:25:46 PM »
Barry George’s sister Michelle Diskin Bates claims to have seen this on all night TV

Is she filling Bamber’s head with rubbish like you claim?

It wasn't on all night TV.  @)(++(*

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Real Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #186 on: April 17, 2020, 07:41:07 PM »
I think he surrounds himself with people who fill his head with rubbish.  Eg his recent claim that he has an alibi re the movement at the window.  I believe this resulted in BC calling him out.

Have you been in contact with Mark Newby Holly?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The Real Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #187 on: April 17, 2020, 08:29:21 PM »
I think he surrounds himself with people who fill his head with rubbish.  Eg his recent claim that he has an alibi re the movement at the window.  I believe this resulted in BC calling him out.

As my friend says 'We all have our poison"!  JB's was cannabis.  He had the means and wherewithal to grow for own use and sold it to mainly persons known for a small profit but interestingly although much was made about OCP in his police interviews and at trial not a word about the cannabis.
The fact remains that you choose to disbelieve JM on the basis of behaviours also exhibited by JB who you consider reliable.  That does not compute.
Not a handwriting expert.

Offline Caroline

Re: The Real Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #188 on: April 17, 2020, 09:11:05 PM »
Has JB lied?

I believe JB stole from the family firm as June was withholding payments until he 'learned to live properly'. This was no doubt her objection to him having sexual relationships outside of marriage.  He was 24 yoa and his income should not have been dependent on perfectly acceptable lifestyle choices.

He had a regular income, a free house, a free car - errm what payments were being withheld?

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Seeking Justice for June & Nevill Bamber, Sheila Caffell & her two six-year-old twin boys who were shot dead in their heads by Psychopath, JEREMY BAMBER who must NEVER be released.

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: The Real Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #190 on: April 18, 2020, 01:03:00 AM »
Bamber would have been tested for HIV etc in prison

According to the Terrance Higgins Trust, ‘Someone can only be charged with intentional transmission if it can be proved they maliciously and intentionally tried to give the other person HIV
https://www.tht.org.uk/hiv-and-sexual-health/living-well-hiv/legal-issues/how-law-works


I wonder what his results came back as?

Thankfully, drugs came out quite quickly which keeps HIV under control so it doesn’t turn into full blown AIDS. But it still isn’t something most people would risk — but it depends on the individual I guess.
Seeking Justice for June & Nevill Bamber, Sheila Caffell & her two six-year-old twin boys who were shot dead in their heads by Psychopath, JEREMY BAMBER who must NEVER be released.

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: The Real Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #191 on: April 18, 2020, 01:12:19 AM »
SC was reunited with her birth mother during May '85 when she was 27 yoa.  I understand they communicated via letters for a number of years beforehand.

JB went to prison when he was 24 yoa so had little opportunity to get the ball rolling even if he had wanted to. 

I doubt many adoptees wake up on their 18th birthday chomping at the bit to meet their birth parents.


Colin said in his book that Jeremy didn’t want to trace his biological parents’ — only Sheila was interested. He said that Sheila’s biological mother was stunningly beautiful like Sheila, in her 40s, glamorous — and a lovely person. I believe she was quite rich too...what a terrible tragedy!

She was reunited with Sheila, discovered she had two beautiful grandsons — then they were wickedly snatched away by that evil psychopath. He tried to contact his biological parents’ after he’d killed his adoptive parents’, but they wanted nothing to do with him. The father said “Jeremy Bamber is evil! He’s nothing to do with us. He was brought up by lovely people and we never want to hear from him, ever”.

Seeking Justice for June & Nevill Bamber, Sheila Caffell & her two six-year-old twin boys who were shot dead in their heads by Psychopath, JEREMY BAMBER who must NEVER be released.

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: The Real Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #192 on: April 18, 2020, 02:00:00 AM »
Is this something you've researched? If not how do you know?  And if yes, why?

There's no evidence he was 'promiscuous' and/or had loads of flings with women. 

JM saying this, that or the other doesn't make it so. She admitted to:

- cheque fraud
- acting as a lookout for JB when he burgled OCP
- selling JB's cannabis on campus
- taking cocaine in a hotel room with a female friend and two males

Hardly reliable.


I have indeed researched it, yes.

Without wishing to bore (my posts are long, I know), but when men suppress their gay leanings, often due to their family’s reaction — or their own misguided shame — they attempt to control their urges by sleeping with women and becoming promiscuous because the sex isn’t gratifying for them. There are, obviously, promiscuous heterosexual men, but Jeremy doesn’t fall into that camp because he’s admitted to secret gay relationships.

Some secretly gay men will be attracted to careers which are typically masculine, such as the police force, army, airforce, truck driving...manly things. That’s why people are often shocked when a seemingly happily married man with children who always seemed masculine declares to his wife he’s gay.

Back to Jeremy Bamber, I’ve read a huge amount of accounts where many different people have said he was EXTREMELY promiscuous. He was known to trawl the local bars and pick up one-nights stands, and he also cheated on his girlfriends, including Julie. I’m surprised you don’t know that?

I don’t know why you keep dragging up Julie’s ONE instance of cheque fraud, where she reported her cheque book stolen & went shopping with her friend. Jeremy knew ALL about it, and gleefully accepted the coffee machine she’d bought him with one of the cheques. She did admit to it, though....and she confessed to the bank and paid the money back.

When Jeremy Bamber burgled the caravan park, he’d obviously planned it when he knew there’s be almost £1000 there in cash. Julie thought he was just taking her for a walk along the sea wall, then sprung it in her and told her to watch out while he went inside. She didn’t know he was planning it, and went along with it because she was in love with him and was young and naive.

As for selling Jeremy’s cannabis on his behalf, he was the supplier — and he was using her to sell it. That doesn’t exonerate her, but she was hardly smuggling 20kilos of Heroin from Columbia...she was selling a few small packets of weed on Jeremy’s behalf. And by all accounts, it was rubbish — someone said you may as well have smoked a cabbage leaf.

If she took Cocaine on one occasion with friends, that isn’t a crime. She wasn’t selling it or buying it. Surely you must know that both weed and Cocaine is EVERYWHERE, so her one snort hardly makes her a drug baron.

You can paint Julie as black as you like — and I myself feel she was partly responsible for what happened to that poor family. Jeremy had told her repeatedly what he planned to do, and she had the power to prevent that. I certainly would have told Nevill and June — in front of Jeremy too. And/or I’d have gone to the police and told them what he’d been threatening to do; then told him too, and said if he did do anything they’d know it was him. I wouldn’t care if he dumped me as I wouldn’t have wanted to be near someone who was capable of even THINKING such evil things.

But all that aside, and the fact she didn’t try to prevent Jeremy murdering them, you can’t make her out be some drug-smuggling junkie and serial fraudster. She wasn’t, she made some stupid mistakes which she owned up to.
Seeking Justice for June & Nevill Bamber, Sheila Caffell & her two six-year-old twin boys who were shot dead in their heads by Psychopath, JEREMY BAMBER who must NEVER be released.

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Real Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #193 on: April 18, 2020, 07:46:30 AM »

I wonder what his results came back as?

Thankfully, drugs came out quite quickly which keeps HIV under control so it doesn’t turn into full blown AIDS. But it still isn’t something most people would risk — but it depends on the individual I guess.

I don’t suppose he’s told his supporters and very much doubt Aunt Agatha would have asked?

It looks like he made out to Daisy he was on his last legs unless I’ve read what she’s written wrong

On the point of Jeremy's health he is not a well man.  He has several serious health problems and is in constant pain.  He has also lost a lot of weight (intentionally or not I don't kinow).  Whatever our differences have been I feel he should be released on compassionate grounds

But she thought he should be released on ‘compassionate grounds’

Sounds like his usual - more lies

In 6 years there’s been no mention of his alleged ‘serious health problems’

He’s most probably made it all up to make her feel sorry for him
« Last Edit: April 18, 2020, 07:49:49 AM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: The Real Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #194 on: April 18, 2020, 08:38:19 AM »
He had a regular income, a free house, a free car - errm what payments were being withheld?

A bonus from OCP which AE received but JB didn't.  AE and JB had the same shareholding and the same role and responsibilities. 

I seem to recall many of the female employee/agents at BBC were up in arms, rightly so, that they were being paid less than their male counterparts for carrying out the same work.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?