Mrs Fenn and that crying child incident revisited.

[Eleanor]

But Mrs Fenn only heard ONE child crying not two.

Rachael Oldfied who was in the adjoining apartment stayed in on the night of the 2nd - so she would have heard any sustained crying from next door if it happened.

And she would hardly have ignored it if she did.

[Miss Taken Identity]

It was Kate MCann who said Madeliene mentioned as 'something of nothing' about; Sean was crying and asked where they were. This was  allegedly the night before the disapearnace.

Why would Kate mention that at all? unless she knew someone heard the crying.

AND after your daughter said that would you go out the next night and leave them alone -what if they woke up crying again? They were known to be light sleepers...

Ahhhh The I forgot they had that fool proof 'listening system'

[carlymichelle]

It was Kate MCann who said Madeliene mentioned as 'something of nothing' about; Sean was crying and asked where they were. This was  allegedly the night before the disapearnace.

Why would Kate mention that at all? unless she knew someone heard the crying.

AND after your daughter said that would you go out the next night and leave them alone -what if they woke up crying again? They were known to be light sleepers...

Ahhhh The I forgot they had that fool proof 'listening system'

according to kates book maddie said  why didnt you come when  sean and i were crying  ie  they were not there when maddie  and sean were crying  and  kate didnt care she said it  was  a passing remark from maddie and that maddie moved  on

[Brietta]

I would refer you to the rogatory statement of Carol Tranmer ... Mrs Fenn's niece for an example of how a person can be totally and innocently wrong in their first statement while being convinced of the truth of it.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CAROL_TRANMER.htm

[pegasus]

If you dismiss all third party accounts as unreliable chinese whispers, and accept only those from the horses mouth, you would dismiss the Thursday breakfast-time statement (about unattended crying on Wednesday night) by the most important person by far in this case. Just because you don't have a first-hand account doesn't mean its not true.

[ferryman]

If you dismiss all third party accounts as unreliable chinese whispers, and accept only those from the horses mouth, you would dismiss the Thursday breakfast-time statement (about unattended crying on Wednesday night) by the most important person by far in this case. Just because you don't have a first-hand account doesn't mean its not true.

Why would the McCanns have volunteered that information if they had some dreadful secret to hide about Madeleine's disappearance?

[jassi]

Why would the McCanns have volunteered that information if they had some dreadful secret to hide about Madeleine's disappearance?

Could it have been damage limitation, because the information was going to come out anyway?

[ferryman]

Could it have been damage limitation, because the information was going to come out anyway?

Going to come out?

Only Madeleine and the McCanns knew about the conversation.

[Anna]

Why would the McCanns have volunteered that information if they had some dreadful secret to hide about Madeleine's disappearance?

It would have been better if they had not. They Left the children critics use it to fire more arrows at the family.
It is water under the bridge now and we should be concentrating on what might have happened to Maddie IMO

[jassi]

Going to come out?

Only Madeleine and the McCanns knew about the conversation.

Mrs Fenn knew about the crying

[Anna]

Mrs Fenn knew about the crying

Different night I believe Jassi.

[Brietta]

If you dismiss all third party accounts as unreliable chinese whispers, and accept only those from the horses mouth, you would dismiss the Thursday breakfast-time statement (about unattended crying on Wednesday night) by the most important person by far in this case. Just because you don't have a first-hand account doesn't mean its not true.

Please watch and listen to Mrs Fenn making a very definitive statement ... "IT'S ALL RUBBISH".
No Chinese whispers there.


Last night the McCanns got a boost when the police case appeared to be undermined by a pensioner who is potentially a key witness.
Pamela Fenn, 81, lives above the apartment where Madeleine disappeared and is reported to have told police she heard Madeleine screaming below.
But yesterday she broke her silence to say it was "absolute rubbish" she had made any such claims to police. Mrs Fenn said: "I didn't even know that family was in there."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFHbkbBh5BM

[jassi]

Different night I believe Jassi.

Only according to the McCanns - that could be the damage limitation.

[Anna]

Only according to the McCanns - that could be the damage limitation.

No Jassi,
 It was in Mrs fenns statement. It was tues that she said that she heard crying.
 IIRC Kate slept in the children's room on Wednesday, so maybe Maddie was referring to Tuesday.....We will never know.

 Kate and Gerry didn't know of Mrs Fenn hearing crying because... she didn't tell them.

Mrs Fenn was out on Wednesday and she heard Kate screaming on Thursday night.
http://themaddiecasefiles.com/post440.html#p440

[pegasus]

Please watch and listen to Mrs Fenn making a very definitive statement ... "IT'S ALL RUBBISH".
No Chinese whispers there.


Last night the McCanns got a boost when the police case appeared to be undermined by a pensioner who is potentially a key witness.
Pamela Fenn, 81, lives above the apartment where Madeleine disappeared and is reported to have told police she heard Madeleine screaming below.
But yesterday she broke her silence to say it was "absolute rubbish" she had made any such claims to police. Mrs Fenn said: "I didn't even know that family was in there."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFHbkbBh5BM

Listen to the audio, what Mrs F actually says is - the claim that she had spoken to journalists is rubbish.
The text of the presumably spoonfed Mail article changes the actual word "journalists" to the fabricated word "police".