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Offline colombosstogey

Re: Madeleine case used in Court as reason not to jail absent mother.
« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2014, 05:50:48 AM »
And that's exactly what the article wants to manipulate us into focusing on.

Court cases are not based on kernels of perception. They are based - among other things - on legal precedents.

The article cites an argument of the defence, but omits to mention anything about what the verdict of the magistrates was actually based on.

And whatever it was based on, it was not on a case that never even came to trial.

The woman in this article clearly behaved abysmally, and in the absence of legal precedent to get her off the hook, the defense lawyer was scraping the very bottom of the barrel for arguments.

The entire article is a twisting of the facts. The woman broke the law on several serious counts and the picture at the top of the page is of poor little Madeleine McCann. Journalism at its worst.
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Yes but this is what they do all the time. Maddy found in greece. Maddy found in Ireland, so on and so forth. Thats why i never READ the blooming papers as most part they are rubbish.

There was another case in Portugal a women was arrested new year I believe.

IT does make a mockery though of child care doesn't it, when one gets away with it, and others dont....goose for gander etc. It wasnt just McCanns parenting either there were more parents involved who ALL got away with it.

Pray tell me what's the difference between sitting in a bar/restaurant drinking and eating and leaving your 3 young children alone for 30 minutes at a time, then being over the limit and leaving your child alone to get some money from the cashpoint.

DRINK DRIVING is the only offence. Not the leaving of children on their own.  D.I.S.G.U.S.T.I.N.G. on all accounts, but sadly people do it and some get away with it.

This is actually a sad case I fear. A lone mother pushed to the limits, working, having a child with behavioural and learning difficulties and obviously she has a drink problem which takes away all your skills and you do things you would never normally do because of it. Because of her error of judgement she nearly lost her child, and she has lost her job.

Because of the error of judgement on the part of the McCanns they did LOOSE THEIR CHILD.

Alcohol is the route of all evil........there are far too many people stressed to hell now and there is a drinking problem in this country and sadly it is starting younger and younger.

Some of the worse cases i have seen has been on holiday, with parents so drunk they can hardly stand up and they have young children to care for.

Anyway it is terrible journalism but it works both ways sadly.

Anywoo the media is making a mint out of the poor girl McCann and it needs to stop.

stephen25000

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Re: Madeleine case used in Court as reason not to jail absent mother.
« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2014, 08:01:07 AM »
A misleading headline IMO, Stephen.

Exaggerated further by the large picture of Madeleine below it.

The headlines in this case are frequently misleading as is the overuse of Madeleine's photographs.

However, it has to be remembered the Mccanns have exploited the papers repeatedly for their own needs.

Also in the mirror.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-lawyer-gareth-morgan-3020133#ixzz2qKMHmR9C
« Last Edit: January 14, 2014, 08:03:32 AM by stephen25000 »

Offline Lace

Re: Madeleine case used in Court as reason not to jail absent mother.
« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2014, 09:42:47 AM »
Angelo's point is perfectly relevant

What happens when a case hits the courts where  parents  nip up the road at night for a beer or two with  neighbours,  checking on the kids they've left sleeping at home  every half hour   ...  and one of the kids wonders out of the door they left unlocked in search of mum and dad  ...  and gets run over and killed   

What happens  ? 

Will the court say the child was killed  because her parents were negligent   ...  or will they say the parents had acted  'within the bounds of reasonabe parenting' ?   and dismiss the child's death as misadventure

It  matters  that the McCanns behaviour has been excused  because of the inevitable comparisons

I would have thought the fact that the McCann's lost their daughter because they left them alone,  would be a deterrent to other parents not to leave their children alone.

The argument against anyone trying to use the same argument should be 'You knew the outcome of the McCann case,   that the child was taken,  yet you still left your child alone'.

stephen25000

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Re: Madeleine case used in Court as reason not to jail absent mother.
« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2014, 09:57:05 AM »
I would have thought the fact that the McCann's lost their daughter because they left them alone,  would be a deterrent to other parents not to leave their children alone.

The argument against anyone trying to use the same argument should be 'You knew the outcome of the McCann case,   that the child was taken,  yet you still left your child alone'.

Please get your facts right.

It has not been proven Madeleine was 'taken'.

That is supposition.

What I do believe is that more people will look up the background to this case and see that the mccann deliberately and repeatedly left their 3 young children unprotected and in they claim an unlocked residence.

Was this woman's house unlocked by the way ?


Offline Lace

Re: Madeleine case used in Court as reason not to jail absent mother.
« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2014, 10:06:32 AM »
Please get your facts right.

It has not been proven Madeleine was 'taken'.

That is supposition.

What I do believe is that more people will look up the background to this case and see that the mccann deliberately and repeatedly left their 3 young children unprotected and in they claim an unlocked residence.

Was this woman's house unlocked by the way ?

Ok for you,  Stephen 'you know the child disappeared'    how is that?

Were the McCann's drunk?   were the McCann's drink driving?   were the McCann's miles away?

Would you have wanted them prosecuted on the top of losing their daughter Stephen?

Offline lizzibif

Re: Madeleine case used in Court as reason not to jail absent mother.
« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2014, 10:07:21 AM »
Are you anti's so desperate that you have to use this womans downfall to try and prove a point to get at the McCann's..its quite pathetic imo..
« Last Edit: January 14, 2014, 10:10:14 AM by lizzibif »

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Madeleine case used in Court as reason not to jail absent mother.
« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2014, 10:10:56 AM »
Please get your facts right.

It has not been proven Madeleine was 'taken'.

That is supposition.

What I do believe is that more people will look up the background to this case and see that the mccann deliberately and repeatedly left their 3 young children unprotected and in they claim an unlocked residence.

Was this woman's house unlocked by the way ?

What do you think happened to Madeleine then Stephen?

stephen25000

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Re: Madeleine case used in Court as reason not to jail absent mother.
« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2014, 10:12:49 AM »
What do you think happened to Madeleine then Stephen?

I've made that clear some time ago.

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Madeleine case used in Court as reason not to jail absent mother.
« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2014, 10:14:30 AM »
I've made that clear some time ago.

Humour me.  What do you relly think?

stephen25000

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Re: Madeleine case used in Court as reason not to jail absent mother.
« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2014, 10:45:40 AM »
Humour me.  What do you relly think?


On the balance of probabilities, I believe Madeleine is no longer alive.

I presume you can comprehend that ?

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Madeleine case used in Court as reason not to jail absent mother.
« Reply #40 on: January 14, 2014, 10:48:59 AM »

On the balance of probabilities, I believe Madeleine is no longer alive.

I presume you can comprehend that ?

Of course.  That is logical, sadly. 

What do you think happened to her?

stephen25000

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Re: Madeleine case used in Court as reason not to jail absent mother.
« Reply #41 on: January 14, 2014, 10:53:53 AM »
Of course.  That is logical, sadly. 

What do you think happened to her?

She had an accident from which she didn't recover.

As to that 'accident', there are several possibilities.



Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Madeleine case used in Court as reason not to jail absent mother.
« Reply #44 on: January 14, 2014, 11:40:55 AM »
And when do you think that accident occured?