Mikaeel Kular > Body found at aunt's home in Kirkcaldy, Fife.

[CPN]

My understanding is no, the charge has not been detailed.  And as I said, the autopsy results are not through so they do not yet know the cause of death.  Which surely will make a difference?  If the death was by natural causes, the charge will presumably be concealing the death etc.  if the death is not by natural caused, the charges may involve actually causing the death.  But until they get the result of the autopsy they cannot know further

[Lyall]

My understanding is no, the charge has not been detailed.  And as I said, the autopsy results are not through so they do not yet know the cause of death.  Which surely will make a difference?  If the death was by natural causes, the charge will presumably be concealing the death etc.  if the death is not by natural caused, the charges may involve actually causing the death.  But until they get the result of the autopsy they cannot know further

It will make a huge difference, CPN. There's a third possibility - they cannot establish the cause of death. Big problems ahead for the prosecutors if they can't.

[John]

Something else which has not been considered is that it is likely that some of the other four children in the apartment might have witnessed events in which case they will be interviewed by specialists.  Maybe CPN can explain the procedure?

[CPN]

It will make a huge difference, CPN. There's a third possibility - they cannot establish the cause of death. Big problems ahead for the prosecutors if they can't.

You are right, of course that is also a possibility. But I was answering davel's point about her being charged with something and saying the actual charge may not yet be clear if the autopsy result is not through.  As you say, if the autopsy result is that the cause of death is not clear....   More news in the morning maybe

[CPN]

Something else which has not been considered is that it is likely that some of the other four children in the apartment might have witnessed events in which case they will be interviewed by specialists.  Maybe CPN can explain the procedure?

I know nothing about the Scottish procedures, but you are right, it is indeed another point to consider...   We don't know where the other children are anyway, with foster carers or eg with their grandmother or indeed with their father.  Nor do we know how all this has been explained to them - not much fun for those responsible for the children, especially Mikaeel's twin.  I hope they try to keep the children together - they will need each other

[John]

The children are being looked after by their aunt Pandeep Kular.

[CPN]

The children are being looked after by their aunt Pandeep.

Are they?! - the one whose house was where Mikaeel was found?

[John]

Yes.

There has been no suggestion from police that Pandeep is suspected of any involvement, and the source backed that up.

 Describing Pandeep as a “kind and gentle” woman, he said: “I just can’t believe Pandeep could be involved in something like this. It can’t be right.

Aunt Pandeep Kular behind whose home the body of Mikaeel was found last night.

 “She is the sort of person who is always smiling and happy and very caring towards people. She would go out of her way to cheer you up if you were feeling down, that sort of thing.

 “She has a good heart and did a lot of work for charity, most recently raising money for cancer research.

 “Until I hear differently I refuse to believe she is involved in little Mikaeel’s death.”

 Pandeep, known to friends as Pani, worked at Sky in Dunfermline as a customer services assistant in the company’s retention department.

 A co-worker who asked not to be named said her colleagues were all “devastated” to hear the news.

 “Some staff knew Pani quite well and were crying when they heard what had happened.

 “I personally haven’t seen her at work for over a week. I think it was last Thursday the last time I saw her and she seemed her usually cheerful self. She didn’t seem to be acting differently in any way.

 “She works flexi-time so she works funny hours and kind of picks and chooses when she comes in. I know she has a teenage son and also has a boyfriend but she never really talked much about them or the rest of her family.”

www.thecourier.co.uk/news/local/fife/missing-mikaeel-aunt-who-lives-in-house-where-body-was-found-described-as-kind-and-gentle-woman-1.178633

[CPN]

Very interesting - thank you.  Well she is going to need a lot of support for her own sake as well as the sake of the children.  She must  be doubly distressed - for her nephew and for her sister

[VIXTE]

Something else which has not been considered is that it is likely that some of the other four children in the apartment might have witnessed events in which case they will be interviewed by specialists.  Maybe CPN can explain the procedure?

Or caused? And she was acting to protect her other child?

[Lyall]

Or caused? And she was acting to protect her other child?

Could be. Anything could have happened from what we know (which is nothing).

[John]

According to his mother, Mikaeel, who attended a nearby nursery, was sleeping alone on Wednesday evening because he was feeling unwell. His four siblings were also in the flat.

On Friday afternoon however, Ms Kular’s estranged husband Omotoso Adekoa, whom she married in 2004 but separated from five years later, told of his shock.

The 35-year-old taxi driver said: “I just heard about Mikaeel. I’ve been trying to call Rosdeep on the phone but she’s not answered.

He added, “I saw my kids at the weekend, but I didn’t see Mikaeel. He’s a lovely boy. He’s very shy. Of course I’m worried about him.”

[VIXTE]

So sad.. the life of these kids was actually filmed

http://instagram.com/rosieallgood

Mikaeel is only shown few times..

[puglove]

According to his mother, Mikaeel, who attended a nearby nursery, was sleeping alone on Wednesday evening because he was feeling unwell. His four siblings were also in the flat.

On Friday afternoon however, Ms Kular’s estranged husband Omotoso Adekoa, whom she married in 2004 but separated from five years later, told of his shock.

The 35-year-old taxi driver said: “I just heard about Mikaeel. I’ve been trying to call Rosdeep on the phone but she’s not answered.

He added, “I saw my kids at the weekend, but I didn’t see Mikaeel. He’s a lovely boy. He’s very shy. Of course I’m worried about him.”

Well, I agree with Spam. These days, you can't rehome a puppy or a kitten without at least 2 homechecks, to make sure that the little creature will be secure and safe. But (I'm waiting for the shitstorm) any dippy tart can have endless babies, and be looked after in the maternity unit, then take that baby home to any sort of shithouse and get lost in the system. Two visits from the health visitor to make sure the baby has had a bath, is still breathing, then you're on your own.

[icabodcrane]

Well,  whatever the outcome now,  a very little  body lay on a slab today,  while a doctor did an autopsy on it

A three year old laying there ... the subject of an autopsy


unspeakable