Mikaeel Kular > Body found at aunt's home in Kirkcaldy, Fife.

[Sherlock Holmes]

he was ill...perhaps he died from natural causes compounded by neglect and that why his mother staged the abduction..we will see

What is the source for the suggestion that he had been ill? Was this something the mother told police?

The reality was that Mikaeel had not been seen by neighbours since Christmas. That's a huge window of time.

At the moment it looks like the mother told the nursery he was ill in order to explain his absence.

[Mr Moderator]

What is the source for the suggestion that he had been ill? Was this something the mother told police?

The reality was that Mikaeel had not been seen by neighbours since Christmas. That's a huge window of time.

At the moment it looks like the mother told the nursery he was ill in order to explain his absence.

It came from the mother and the father of the three older children Mr Adekoa observed that Mikaeel wasn't there at the weekend when he visited.  Could he have died as far back as Xmas/New Year and her excuses had effectively run out.

Was this another copycat case?

[pegasus]

Just wondering why in some cases does a concealor choose a location which is geographically linkable to them?

[Sherlock Holmes]

Just wondering why in some cases does a concealor choose a location which is geographically linkable to them?

It's an interesting question, isn't it.

It frequently occurs that someone who has killed disposes the body in order that it is easily findable. Much is written on this.

I did once read that often a person who has killed a relative or someone to whom they were close, buries or hides them in a place significant in their relationship, as an expression of the bond they share. The expression of that bond, whether emotional or symbolic in a given case, is understood to be so important that it supersedes concerns of discovery.

Of course we don't yet know exactly what has happened here, but it is certainly no surprise that he was found where he was. My feeling so far is that police found him according to their own searches and not any hints. The property after all was a place where the family used to live, so it would have to have been searched.

[Mr Moderator]

It's an interesting question, isn't it.

It frequently occurs that someone who has killed disposes the body in order that it is easily findable. Much is written on this.

I did once read that often a person who has killed a relative or someone to whom they were close, buries or hides them in a place significant in their relationship, as an expression of the bond they share. The expression of that bond, whether emotional or symbolic in a given case, is understood to be so important that it supersedes concerns of discovery.

Of course we don't yet know exactly what has happened here, but it is certainly no surprise that he was found where he was. My feeling so far is that police found him according to their own searches and not any hints. The property after all was a place where the family used to live, so it would have to have been searched.

But they didnt find him within the property boundary but in a wooded area nearby.  I dont believe the police would have searched that particular area and especially at midnight unless they got a tip-off of some sort.

[Eleanor]

But they didnt find him within the property boundary but in a wooded area nearby.  I dont believe the police would have searched that particular area and especially at midnight unless they got a tip-off of some sort.

I agree.  And I doubt they would have immediately raced off to detain his mother, unless she told them where to look.
No one else has been detained, so apparently no accomplice.

Not that any of this matters at the moment, other than conscience, which can only be a good thing.

I am still hoping that it was an accident.

[colombosstogey]

I sometimes think that way yes & it's horrible things like people that tend to make me think that way.

How can there be a God when so much bad sh8t happens like neglect & deaths of little children.

If God made everything then he made cancer, what sort of evil bast8rd does that?

How many humans live on this planet? You need to put these figures into perspective.....although i know sometimes its hard.

I have to find something positive every day to make me WANT to get up and go through my day, and I always find something, even if its just seeing the birds outside eating out of bird containers, it reminds me of how wonderful nature is.....

Sadly there is always going to be horrible things to read about.

Thousands of jews gassed to death, whole tribes of people died because of genocide, its been going on since humans evolved sadly, people killing for revenge, greed, so on and so forth.

I am not going to say much about this death, as we dont know what happened. The women even with 5 children seems to have had a lot of support. Her mother is a GP and I believe works in the town where the child was found. The family do not look poor.

The father was not on the birth certificate he is from Pakistan.

What could have happened to cover up a death of a 3 year old?

An accident, why cover it up.

An unlawful killing for me is the only reason why she would do that. So what happened for her to do that.

There are tons of neglected children in this country. I used to work in the community and would find 2 year olds outside half clothed....in the winter.

The problem in this country is there are now TOO many people living in it, and not enough medical clinics, or social services to deal with all the stuff that is wrong.

All I know is, a young boy of 3 has now died, and his sibling who was close to him is going to be in a terrible state now.

IF the social service had taken the twins away last year, it does show a pattern of something going on.

Now we wait. There is nothing else much we can do.

RIP little Mikaeel Kular.xxx

[colombosstogey]

Pub/club/rave?


Someone hanging on to their youth and freedom when they can get it after five kids...

Wondering if drugs had anythng to do with this whole sad story

This man was charged with drug offences but he apparently said the drugs worth 300k found at one of his flats IIRC were planted by this Somali gang...the ones who killed him and the mother must have been fairly close with him if neighbours accounts are true he used to take her kids to school

Here, found it

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/men-responsible-murdering-mohammed-abdi-1920283


Just speculation.....

Drugs went through my head too sadly.......

[Eleanor]

I did mean an accident in temper or under stress.  Something went badly wrong.  Otherwise there would have been no need to hide his body.

[Wonderfulspam]

How many humans live on this planet? You need to put these figures into perspective.....although i know sometimes its hard.

I have to find something positive every day to make me WANT to get up and go through my day, and I always find something, even if its just seeing the birds outside eating out of bird containers, it reminds me of how wonderful nature is.....

Sadly there is always going to be horrible things to read about.

Thousands of jews gassed to death, whole tribes of people died because of genocide, its been going on since humans evolved sadly, people killing for revenge, greed, so on and so forth.

I am not going to say much about this death, as we dont know what happened. The women even with 5 children seems to have had a lot of support. Her mother is a GP and I believe works in the town where the child was found. The family do not look poor.

The father was not on the birth certificate he is from Pakistan.

What could have happened to cover up a death of a 3 year old?

An accident, why cover it up.

An unlawful killing for me is the only reason why she would do that. So what happened for her to do that.

There are tons of neglected children in this country. I used to work in the community and would find 2 year olds outside half clothed....in the winter.

The problem in this country is there are now TOO many people living in it, and not enough medical clinics, or social services to deal with all the stuff that is wrong.

All I know is, a young boy of 3 has now died, and his sibling who was close to him is going to be in a terrible state now.

IF the social service had taken the twins away last year, it does show a pattern of something going on.

Now we wait. There is nothing else much we can do.

RIP little Mikaeel Kular.xxx

Yes, your right. There are some good people on the planet, like the 100's of people who went out to look for him.

Overpopulation is a problem & peoples lack of responsibility, it shouldn't be up to social services to wipe the backside of every baby born in Britain.

[a.baker]

The Police say they spoke to Mikaeel's biological father earlier in the week,but where is he? His baby son was missing and now sadly found dead and yet he hasn't shown his face once or commented. Does he not care? As he hasn't been named (or seen) am wondering if he is maybe a well known public figure that Ms Kular had an affair with? He was also said to be overjoyed about the twins birth and yet his name does not appear on the birth certificate. All very odd,or perhaps I am too overly suspicious!

[VIXTE]

I posted her instagram page earlier.. the kids looked neat clean, well fed and happy.. And there are many photos of them! On the day she said Mikaeel was gone she posted a very strange note..


http://instagram.com/rosieallgood

For some reason she put the other kids photo more than Mikaeel's..

[a.baker]

Yes,I too noticed that there were more photos of her older three children than of the twins. And also,there are photos of her cuddling each child individually,apart from Mikaeel.

[colombosstogey]

I posted her instagram page earlier.. the kids looked neat clean, well fed and happy.. And there are many photos of them! On the day she said Mikaeel was gone she posted a very strange note..


http://instagram.com/rosieallgood

For some reason she put the other kids photo more than Mikaeel's..

Its really sad, i would think the police should have this removed surely. Its full of vile comments.

The photo of him with his sister is so sweet, you can hardly imagine that a few weeks later he was dead.

The family just look a normal loving family, with pets, the house is clean and they are certainly not poor or neglected.

What I do find odd is why leave his body close to a home she has lived in. Its almost like she wanted him found. It was obvious the police would check it. I dont get how the sister was living there either. She seems a lovely girl, not involved according to what is on the news, but works split shifts. So perhaps her sister took him there when she was working. What a SHOCK though to find your sister had dumped her nephew in the woods behind her house....how do you actually cope with that.....

Anyway we need to just sit and wait and find out what happened now.

[Cariad]

Its really sad, i would think the police should have this removed surely. Its full of vile comments.

The photo of him with his sister is so sweet, you can hardly imagine that a few weeks later he was dead.

The family just look a normal loving family, with pets, the house is clean and they are certainly not poor or neglected.

We need to just sit and wait and find out what happened now.

Seconded. I was appalled at some of the comments.

Whatever happened, this isn't a Casey Anthony, this isn't someone who murdered her own child to go out and party.