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Offline pegasus

Mobile Phone Traffic 9:45pm to 10:15pm.
« on: February 06, 2014, 08:23:02 PM »
Complete list of all Mobile to Mobile Phone Traffic 9:45pm to 10:15pm where both mobiles are activating PDL masts.
This list was compiled by the original PJ investigation specifically to target the time of the discovery and the Smith sighting. I blanked the last two digits of each mobile number.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2014, 11:11:54 PM by pegasus »

Offline pegasus

Re: Mobile Phone Traffic 9:45pm to 10:15pm
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2014, 09:00:00 PM »
List was compiled by the original PJ investigation from the records provided by all 3 mobile network providers.
Each call or text appears twice.
Items with duration 0 seconds or 1 second are txt messages, all other items are voice calls.
There are two mobiles with UK SIM cards and the other mobiles all have Portuguese SIM cards.

Offline VIXTE

Re: Mobile Phone Traffic 9:45pm to 10:15pm
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2014, 09:21:34 PM »
The only phone traffic in PDL? I don't believe it. The list must be bigger.

There should be another file of phones connecting to the masts but making calls. There are two masts in PDL

Redblossom

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Re: Mobile Phone Traffic 9:45pm to 10:15pm
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2014, 09:42:55 PM »
The only phone traffic in PDL? I don't believe it. The list must be bigger.

There should be another file of phones connecting to the masts but making calls. There are two masts in PDL

Just half an hours worth!

Pegasus, well done, and thanks, I've never seen that

Offline pegasus

Re: Mobile Phone Traffic 9:45pm to 10:15pm
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2014, 09:43:44 PM »
The only phone traffic in PDL? I don't believe it. The list must be bigger.
There should be another file of phones connecting to the masts but making calls. There are two masts in PDL
Yes complete mobile to mobile traffic 9:45pm to 10:15pm WHERE BOTH MOBILES ARE ACTIVATING PDL MASTS.
No it doesn't include passive pings.


Online Eleanor

Re: Mobile Phone Traffic 9:45pm to 10:15pm
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2014, 09:46:35 PM »
Yes complete mobile to mobile traffic 9:45pm to 10:15pm WHERE BOTH MOBILES ARE ACTIVATING PDL MASTS.
No it doesn't include passive pings.

So both caller and receiver were in PdL?

Thanks and well done.

Offline pegasus

Re: Mobile Phone Traffic 9:45pm to 10:15pm
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2014, 09:51:11 PM »
I did trace a few of the numbers but unfortunately lost the detailed notes in a computercrash but IIRC:
1. There are no T9 numbers here.
2. IIRC at least one UK employee to UK employee item here (some UK employees have Portuguese SIM cards).
3. Re the 4 minute call beginning at 21:52 IIRC it was possible to trace one of the numbers (for 2008 anyway).
4. Re txts at 22:07 22:09 22:10 IIRC possible to trace one number.
IMO all innocent people, just thought people might like to see the type of records SY are now reexamining.
« Last Edit: February 06, 2014, 11:16:45 PM by pegasus »

Offline VIXTE

Re: Mobile Phone Traffic 9:45pm to 10:15pm
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2014, 10:36:20 PM »
Just half an hours worth!

Pegasus, well done, and thanks, I've never seen that

Yes, well done pegasus.. great job!.. Sorry I am sometimes a bit autistic  @)(++(*

I have seen these lists in the files.. I looked at them too but what does it mean to us when we don't know whose numbers these were.

Although it would be worth changing the list to 9.40 to 10.15. to see the other 5 min gap.

Offline pegasus

Re: Mobile Phone Traffic 9:45pm to 10:15pm
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2014, 11:14:45 PM »
Re the call (4 minutes long) starting at 21:52 its possible to trace one of the numbers.
Re the call (6 and a half minutes long) starting at 22:14 I could not trace those two numbers.
Traced a minority of the other numbers.
Possibly some of the later calls might be alerting people to the disappearance, I don't know.
PJ will trace them all I assume. All innocent peeps IMO.

P.S there is another complete list for around time of JT sighting
« Last Edit: February 06, 2014, 11:19:48 PM by pegasus »

icabodcrane

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Re: Mobile Phone Traffic 9:45pm to 10:15pm
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2014, 12:45:42 AM »
I'm not sure I understand the value of this phone data

A child is claimed to have been  'abducted'   from her bed by her parents,  and  emphasis is placed on people who happened to be on their phones  alot that night   ? 

Just seems a bit random to me

I mean,  historically,  when children are snatched/murdered  it is not the work of  'gangs'  ...  it is invariably a lone,  sick individual

How many of those monsters were   'on the phone'  whilst they went about their unspeakably depraved actions   ? 

None,  I would guess

Why would it be assumed that if someone snatched Madeleine  he would be using his phone  at all  ?

Offline pegasus

Re: Mobile Phone Traffic 9:45pm to 10:15pm
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2014, 02:39:53 AM »
An astute post IMO icabodcrane and I agree the individual who did the disappearance is likely to be acting totally alone.
Posted the mobile to mobile calls simply to show a real example of what SY are reportedly currently looking at.

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Mobile Phone Traffic 9:45pm to 10:15pm
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2014, 07:10:15 AM »
Thank you for that information, Pegasus.  8@??)(

Offline sadie

Re: Mobile Phone Traffic 9:45pm to 10:15pm
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2014, 08:12:07 AM »
I'm not sure I understand the value of this phone data

A child is claimed to have been  'abducted'   from her bed by her parents,  and  emphasis is placed on people who happened to be on their phones  alot that night   ? 

Just seems a bit random to me

I mean,  historically,  when children are snatched/murdered  it is not the work of  'gangs'  ...  it is invariably a lone,  sick individual

How many of those monsters were   'on the phone'  whilst they went about their unspeakably depraved actions   ? 

None,  I would guess

Why would it be assumed that if someone snatched Madeleine  he would be using his phone  at all  ?
Statistically, historically there is a great likelyhood that one man, a paedophile, would take a child
However Stastics are but indicators of likelyhood; they are not cast in stone.

If this were a burglary gone wrong, then a gang might be operating

If this were a commisioned abduction, then also a gang might be operating
And SY believe that this gang might be involved, or have knowledge of some sort.  SY must have reasons for wanting to question them.


With so much publicity, they must know that there is interest in them.   If innocent, the question in my mind is, why haven't they come forward, to clear themselves and to further the search ?

Or maybe they have and we dont know about it?

stephen25000

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Re: Mobile Phone Traffic 9:45pm to 10:15pm
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2014, 08:25:50 AM »
Statistically, historically there is a great likelyhood that one man, a paedophile, would take a child
However Stastics are but indicators of likelyhood; they are not cast in stone.

If this were a burglary gone wrong, then a gang might be operating

If this were a commisioned abduction, then also a gang might be operating
And SY believe that this gang might be involved, or have knowledge of some sort.  SY must have reasons for wanting to question them.


With so much publicity, they must know that there is interest in them.   If innocent, the question in my mind is, why haven't they come forward, to clear themselves and to further the search ?

Or maybe they have and we dont know about it?

This is pure speculation.

All if's and maybe's.

Also, I would suspect, pun intended, that any burglars operating would not want to come forward in case they were fitted.

As regards burglary, I also remember the words of gm, to the effect, 'nothing of value was taken from the apartment'.

Offline sadie

Re: Mobile Phone Traffic 9:45pm to 10:15pm
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2014, 08:51:36 AM »
snipped -

Also, I would suspect, pun intended, that any burglars operating would not want to come forward in case they were fitted.

As regards burglary, I also remember the words of gm, to the effect, 'nothing of value was taken from the apartment'.
And GMs words are one of the reasons that i think this is likely to have been a commissioned abduction, rather than a burglary gone wrong, Stephen

I understand your point about burglars not wanting to come forward in case they were fitted.  Seems a fair bit of that went on in PT ....