The confusion over the doors didn't help the investigation?

[AnneGuedes]

There was also confusion because some described the door facing onto the carpark as the back door and some described it as the front door.    And the same goes for the Patio door - with some describing it as the front door and some the back door.   IIRC To avoid further confusion it was suggested by the UK police officer interviewing JT that they referred to one door as the poolside door and the other as the carpark door.

I can't believe that anyone reading this thread cannot see how easy it was for a misunderstanding to occur during that very first interview over the doors.

Give examples please ! It's a bit boring because it forces you to read all statements, but if you intend to convince, you can't escape it.

[pegasus]

... using erroneously "closing" instead of "leaving slightly open".

The door-window (or whatever we call it) in the lounge.
Are you sure that it auto-locks when closed?
If there is no autolock, then (standing outside) a person can slide it fully closed, and still be able later (standing outside) to slide it open.

[Redblossom]

I'll drink to that Red cheers.
The Law of Triviality n that

Isnt it just


 
 
Bottoms up friend

[Benice]

Give examples please ! It's a bit boring because it forces you to read all statements, but if you intend to convince, you can't escape it.

IMO reading through the thread there's plenty of confusion going on amongst posters about the doors.  And all our discussions are in English.

[sadie]

Give examples please ! It's a bit boring because it forces you to read all statements, but if you intend to convince, you can't escape it.

Anne please dont waste Benices time.

Surely by this time you have read all the statements. 
Surely by this time you know which is the front door and which the back and surely you MUST have noticed the discrepancies in the early statements and articles.

[AnneGuedes]

The door-window (or whatever we call it) in the lounge.
Are you sure that it auto-locks when closed?
If there is no autolock, then (standing outside) a person can slide it fully closed, and still be able later (standing outside) to slide it open.

If it were possible, no insurance would accept a contract. And insurance is required by law.

[sadie]

If it were possible, no insurance would accept a contract. And insurance is required by law.

Are you sure Anne?  I have been in many hotels where the door can be locked from the inside but not from the outside.

[pegasus]

Source: Volume 4a page 970
Prints on "exterior da janela/porto da sala" (exterior of window/door of lounge).
There is no handle on exterior so this is where a person on balcony places their hand to slide it open or shut.

[icabodcrane]

Has Gerry McCann ever said that he never told the Portuguese police that he used his key to get into the apartment that night  ?

Just wondering why  people here are denying he  said it,  if he's never denied it himself

[AnneGuedes]

Has Gerry McCann ever said that he never told the Portuguese police that he used his key to get into the apartment that night  ?

Just wondering why  people here are denying he  said it,  if he's never denied it himself

I'm afraid this will never be an argument for those who systematically denigrate the interpreters and the translators of the files for not being "professionals" ! They'll insinuate that Mr McCann's denial was lost in translation.   

[peter claridge]

Has Gerry McCann ever said that he never told the Portuguese police that he used his key to get into the apartment that night  ?

Just wondering why  people here are denying he  said it,  if he's never denied it himself

Gerry confirms that he said it here;

Gerry's second statement -Despite what he said in his previous statements, he states now and with certainty, that he left with KATE through the back door which he consequently closed but did not lock, given that that is only possible from the inside. Concerning the front door, although he is certain that it was closed, it is unlikely that it was locked, because they left through the back door.

[Carana]

There was also confusion because some described the door facing onto the carpark as the back door and some described it as the front door.    And the same goes for the Patio door - with some describing it as the front door and some the back door.   IIRC To avoid further confusion it was suggested by the UK police officer interviewing JT that they referred to one door as the poolside door and the other as the carpark door.

I can't believe that anyone reading this thread cannot see how easy it was for a misunderstanding to occur during that very first interview over the doors.

Here's a different area of confusion in Gerry's first statement.

At about 21.30 his friend Matt (member of the group) went to the apartment, where his children were and on his way went to the witness' apartment, entering by means of a glass sliding door that was always unlocked and was located laterally to the building.

(...)

The side door leading to the living room was closed, which as previously stated, was never left locked.

Since when was the French window lateral to the building? Access to the French window was via the gate and that was lateral to the building.

[Redblossom]

Here's a different area of confusion in Gerry's first statement.

At about 21.30 his friend Matt (member of the group) went to the apartment, where his children were and on his way went to the witness' apartment, entering by means of a glass sliding door that was always unlocked and was located laterally to the building.

(...)

The side door leading to the living room was closed, which as previously stated, was never left locked.

Since when was the French window lateral to the building? Access to the French window was via the gate and that was lateral to the building.

Does perpendicular, adjacent, lateral etc matter? Gerry said he used  A KEY...thats all that matters and there was Only ONE DOOR he could have used it on...end of

[pegasus]

See photo on this thread about 6 posts up
Anyone notice in that photo, of prints on the "janela/porta da sala", that on the glass there is a warning sticker ?

[AnneGuedes]

See photo on this thread about 6 posts up
Anyone notice in that photo, of prints on the "janela/porta da sala", that on the glass there is a warning sticker ?

Can you read it ?