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Offline Bert Singe

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #690 on: January 07, 2015, 07:13:01 AM »
So Benice, should all reconstructions be scrapped if they are so ineffective? Or do you only accept SY's forensic analysis of the timeline as effective?

Offline slartibartfast

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #691 on: January 07, 2015, 07:33:22 AM »
They asked for a reconstruction in May 2007, but The PJ refused.

If I remember correctly, they asked for a crimewatch style reenactment for the cameras?
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Offline Benice

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #692 on: January 07, 2015, 08:41:52 AM »
So Benice, should all reconstructions be scrapped if they are so ineffective? Or do you only accept SY's forensic analysis of the timeline as effective?

Please point out where I have ever claimed that all reconstructions are ineffective! 

I notice you chose not to ... 'fill in the blank'.... in my previous post to you.    Care to say why?

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Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #693 on: January 07, 2015, 10:01:32 AM »
Please point out where I have ever claimed that all reconstructions are ineffective! 

I notice you chose not to ... 'fill in the blank'.... in my previous post to you.    Care to say why?

Reconstructions have only one legitimate purpose; to prompt memories, and generate new leads.

An attempt to recreate events of an actual crime to attempt to determine questions of guilt or innocence are doomed to failure, because you can never recreate things second time around exactly the same as they actually happened.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #694 on: January 07, 2015, 10:42:10 AM »
Reconstructions have only one legitimate purpose; to prompt memories, and generate new leads.

An attempt to recreate events of an actual crime to attempt to determine questions of guilt or innocence are doomed to failure, because you can never recreate things second time around exactly the same as they actually happened.

Especially when they never did.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #695 on: January 07, 2015, 10:53:26 AM »
They asked for a reconstruction in May 2007, but The PJ refused.

But you know that's not true Eleanor and Kate doesn't even claim it in her book.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #696 on: January 07, 2015, 02:37:03 PM »
But you know that's not true Eleanor and Kate doesn't even claim it in her book.

Someone asked for it because Amaral is reported as refusing, and giving spurious reasons.

Offline Brietta

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #697 on: January 07, 2015, 02:49:12 PM »
Someone asked for it because Amaral is reported as refusing, and giving spurious reasons.

Dr McCann may not have mentioned it in her book but Dr Amaral did mention it in his ...

A summary of key points from 'The Truth of the Lie', 27 July 2008

44 - It was thought to do the reconstruction in May but that wasn't possible.

The number of tourists, the number of journalists and the fact that the air space had to be closed (because of helicopters from the media) and the fact that it would make the public suspect the McCanns were being treated as suspects prevented it.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id137.html
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline faithlilly

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #698 on: January 07, 2015, 06:38:01 PM »
Someone asked for it because Amaral is reported as refusing, and giving spurious reasons.

Perhaps you should have been rather clearer to who 'they' were Eleanor.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #699 on: January 07, 2015, 10:51:59 PM »
Dr McCann may not have mentioned it in her book but Dr Amaral did mention it in his ...

A summary of key points from 'The Truth of the Lie', 27 July 2008

44 - It was thought to do the reconstruction in May but that wasn't possible.

The number of tourists, the number of journalists and the fact that the air space had to be closed (because of helicopters from the media) and the fact that it would make the public suspect the McCanns were being treated as suspects prevented it.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id137.html

He only put off the inevitable.  Seven years later half the country and most of Portugal believe them implicated.

One person made a very good point on twitter today.  Kerry Needham has never given up searching for her son all these years and has uncovered evidence which could very well lead to his discovery yet what have the McCanns done?

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Offline Brietta

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #700 on: January 07, 2015, 11:08:10 PM »
He only put off the inevitable.  Seven years later half the country and most of Portugal believe them implicated.

One person made a very good point on twitter today.  Kerry Needham has never given up searching for her son all these years and has uncovered evidence which could very well lead to his discovery yet what have the McCanns done?

He put off the only opportunity to get all the main players together in a town with a transient population (minus the Smiths who had not yet reported their sighting but who might have put two and two together a bit sooner). 
MW staff ... cooks ... waiters ... visitors ... residents would have been available and someone's memory might have been jogged and so on and so on.

I think that seven years on the fact that most of Portugal believe them implicated is a product of Dr Amaral's book bolstered by his once ubiquitous appearances on the visual media.


With all due respect to Kerry Needham ... the senior officer in charge of investigating Ben's disappearance did not write a book implicating her or her family in her son's disappearance.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #701 on: January 07, 2015, 11:11:23 PM »
He only put off the inevitable.  Seven years later half the country and most of Portugal believe them implicated.

One person made a very good point on twitter today.  Kerry Needham has never given up searching for her son all these years and has uncovered evidence which could very well lead to his discovery yet what have the McCanns done?

It's a good job they had a good PR machine; had they not what might more people have thought?
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #702 on: January 07, 2015, 11:24:33 PM »
It's a good job they had a good PR machine; had they not what might more people have thought?

...not to mention the lawyers, Government interference and the somewhat bewildered police officers who attended the scene! oh,oh and not forgetting the police who were 'sympathetic' and didn't press charges for child abandonment.

They had lost their reputation as well as their daughter! and that did set them in a panic.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #703 on: January 08, 2015, 07:26:56 AM »
He put off the only opportunity to get all the main players together in a town with a transient population (minus the Smiths who had not yet reported their sighting but who might have put two and two together a bit sooner). 
MW staff ... cooks ... waiters ... visitors ... residents would have been available and someone's memory might have been jogged and so on and so on.

I think that seven years on the fact that most of Portugal believe them implicated is a product of Dr Amaral's book bolstered by his once ubiquitous appearances on the visual media.


With all due respect to Kerry Needham ... the senior officer in charge of investigating Ben's disappearance did not write a book implicating her or her family in her son's disappearance.

Probably because she wasn't seen carrying him away.
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Offline Brietta

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #704 on: January 08, 2015, 11:47:55 AM »
Probably because she wasn't seen carrying him away.

I'm afraid you have lost me there ... what point are you trying to make?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....