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Online Eleanor

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #735 on: January 10, 2015, 02:01:50 PM »

Can I take it that videos by HiDeHo are now acceptable?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #736 on: January 10, 2015, 02:02:57 PM »
That is how a detective earns his keep, knowing the difference from professional experience.

Personally, I will never understand how the parents of a missing child wouldn't do anything and take part in anything which wouldassist tthe investigation regardless of their own insecurities.

is that why amaral was sacked from the investigation

Offline sadie

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #737 on: January 10, 2015, 02:09:58 PM »
Spot on!  As the AG reported in his final report, they lost the opportunity to establish their innocence.
What a pity that Amaral did not do the reconstruction at the time of the abduction, when the facts would have been clear in the minds of the witnesses.

The Mccanns wanted it, but Amaral didn't want it THEN for some strange reason

I wonder why he didn't want it then?

Offline John

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #738 on: January 10, 2015, 02:12:10 PM »
Can I take it that videos by HiDeHo are now acceptable?

Only if they are original unedited footage and don't include speculation.  If anyone has specific objections to this video please let them be known and it can be dealt with.  I must admit I didn't watch it all the first time but did have a chuckle at the ending when I reviewed it.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2015, 02:21:07 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #739 on: January 10, 2015, 02:18:35 PM »
What a pity that Amaral did not do the reconstruction at the time of the abduction, when the facts would have been clear in the minds of the witnesses.

The Mccanns wanted it, but Amaral didn't want it THEN for some strange reason

I wonder why he didn't want it then?


Read the op Sadie, his reasons are recorded.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline sadie

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #740 on: January 10, 2015, 02:21:48 PM »
I have answered this already in my responses to other posts but safe to say anyone who lived through that night will have events imprinted in their memory.  Do you realise how embarrassing it is to take part in a reconstitution only to be shown to have been mistaken?  Had Jez been there when the documentary was being made, when Jane was left in tears by Gerry, I wonder what his reaction would have been to have had both of them establish it was he who was mistaken?
Rewatch the video John.  Jane was upset by Gerry but she wasn't in tears at that time IIRC. 

She was in tears later, because she realised that she had seen the abductor carrying Madeleine away and she, in her ignorance, had not raised the alarm .... If only .... if only

Offline John

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #741 on: January 10, 2015, 02:25:53 PM »
Rewatch the video John.  Jane was upset by Gerry but she wasn't in tears at that time IIRC. 

She was in tears later, because she realised that she had seen the abductor carrying Madeleine away and she, in her ignorance, had not raised the alarm .... If only .... if only

Do you think Gerry handled the situation properly or do you agree that his intervention was very abrupt and most dismissive of Jane?  Clearly there was a bit of domineering going on in that footage.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Lyall

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Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #742 on: January 10, 2015, 02:26:27 PM »
One thing about HiDeHo I'm sure everyone can agree on: she has awful taste in music %£&)**#

Offline Anna

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #743 on: January 10, 2015, 02:35:18 PM »
Benny Hill’s comedy sketch music, I believe, Lyal. Appropriate?
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

ferryman

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Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #744 on: January 10, 2015, 02:35:43 PM »
One thing about HiDeHo I'm sure everyone can agree on: she has awful taste in music %£&)**#

Dunno so much.

I recall a wonderful bit of Einaudi from one of her videos.

Couldn't tell you the first thing about the rest of the video, though ...

Offline sadie

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #745 on: January 10, 2015, 02:37:15 PM »



What is the correct terminology in English? I've heard of reconstituted food as in:


reconstitute
/riːˈkɒnstɪˌtjuːt/
verb (transitive)
1.
to restore (food, etc) to its former or natural state or a semblance of it, as by the addition of water to a concentrate: reconstituted lemon juice
2.
to reconstruct; form again

John tells us that the Portuguese refer to it as a reconstitution. 
That is hilarious cos it implies changing and the addition of stuff.... an imitation.

Reconstruction means rebuilding as it was.



Personally I NEVER buy reconstituted ham, cos it is different and little like the real mccoy.  But I can reconstruct a very nice, honest and true, ham sandwich from little bits of unadulterated ham simply placed together between buttered bread slices.

I wonder if that is what the whole business was about ?  To gather stuff and change it to suit Amarals agenda?
Maybe that is why Amaral the PJ calls it reconstituted?


Edtited to correct my mistake.

Offline John

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #746 on: January 10, 2015, 02:42:35 PM »
To reconstitute is to build up again from parts.  Quite appropriate really but then when some of the constituent elements refuse to play ball...
« Last Edit: January 10, 2015, 02:49:15 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline faithlilly

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #747 on: January 10, 2015, 02:46:08 PM »
What a pity that Amaral did not do the reconstruction at the time of the abduction, when the facts would have been clear in the minds of the witnesses.

The Mccanns wanted it, but Amaral didn't want it THEN for some strange reason

I wonder why he didn't want it then?


The final decision with regard to the earlier reconstruction lay with Amaral's superiors not Amaral.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Lyall

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Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #748 on: January 10, 2015, 02:48:20 PM »
Benny Hill’s comedy sketch music, I believe, Lyal. Appropriate?

There's never a bad time to channel Benny %£&)**#

Alfred R Jones

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Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #749 on: January 10, 2015, 02:48:32 PM »
That is how a detective earns his keep, knowing the difference from professional experience.

Personally, I will never understand how the parents of a missing child wouldn't do all they coud and take part in anything which would assist the investigation regardless of their own insecurities.  I think this fact alone is the reason why so many people feel they were less than helpful when they should have been.
That's all very well but doesn't address the question.  It's all very well saying a detective knows the difference between a lie and a mistake but it would need actual evidence to prove that it was a lie and not a mistake to make any difference to anything.  So, how would a "reconstitution" prove any supposed lies told?  How could it prove anything at all, how in fact could it prove the McCanns' innocence?