New book "Blood Guilt: The White House Farm Murders" out soon.

[Holly Goodhead]

Going from what I remember because this was just before Christmas - I posted asking why he hadn't contacted Bret for the book (Just to see MD's reaction).

And also MD said his book had been delayed - he wouldn't say why- I told people why (Due to him putting words into the mouth of someone he had interviewed)

So he then apparently phoned his publisher to ask them if what I said was true, although... shouldn't he already know?? That rang alarm bells for me.

Then he sent me his actual name and the PM about suing me..... His actual name led nowhere - I'm suspicious but open minded about the book as I think many people have slowly become.

Thanks Mat.  All seems very odd  >@@(*&)

[goatboy]

Going from what I remember because this was just before Christmas - I posted asking why he hadn't contacted Bret for the book (Just to see MD's reaction).

And also MD said his book had been delayed - he wouldn't say why- I told people why (Due to him putting words into the mouth of someone he had interviewed)

So he then apparently phoned his publisher to ask them if what I said was true, although... shouldn't he already know?? That rang alarm bells for me.

Then he sent me his actual name and the PM about suing me..... His actual name led nowhere - I'm suspicious but open minded about the book as I think many people have slowly become.

He threatened to sue you? Really? Why?

[ActualMat]

He threatened to sue you? Really? Why?

I guess because he believed I had attempted to damage his future book sales by saying I thought the book wasn't gonig to be any good he said this was a "wholly libellous statement".

[scipio_usmc]

I guess because he believed I had attempted to damage his future book sales by saying I thought the book wasn't gonig to be any good he said this was a "wholly libellous statement".

defamation requires a factual misrepresentation by definition opinion is not actionable.

[ActualMat]

defamation requires a factual misrepresentation by definition opinion is not actionable.

Exactly. I didn't even bother replying.

[sika]

Is there really any appetite for yet another book about this case?

[sika]

Is there really any appetite for yet another book about this case?

[Holly Goodhead]

Is there really any appetite for yet another book about this case?

I guess we will see if it ever hits the bookshelves!

Personally I think so yes.  Anyone under 40 yoa is unlikely to remember the case.  Most over 40 can only recall the most basic facts of which there are few 

True crime is the most popular genre and, putting aside the very real human tragedy of the case, I find it fascinating and absorbing as I assume other posters on the forums do.

Everything has moved on since '85/'86 forensics, ballistics, soc, psychology, understanding of mental health, peoples' attitudes, media, availability of different mediums eg internet, twitter etc, etc. 

To date there have been four books.  Not many for a case of such notoriety and that in many ways is unique.  I think it is a case that will always interest authors, readers and publishers long after JB's demise.

[puglove]

I guess because he believed I had attempted to damage his future book sales by saying I thought the book wasn't gonig to be any good he said this was a "wholly libellous statement".

If this book ever sees the light of day it had better be good, I'll not be too cheery if it's just re-hashed old stuff. I'll be wanting my £3.99 back.   

[goatboy]

I guess because he believed I had attempted to damage his future book sales by saying I thought the book wasn't gonig to be any good he said this was a "wholly libellous statement".

He threatened to sue me and another forum member for defamation of character too for pretty much the same thing. Though as John told me at the time, how can you defame a pseudonym?

[John]

He threatened to sue anyone who challenged him by the looks of it.  I got so sick of his whinging crap I deleted his account.  In my opinion he like the other authors have very little if anything new to bring to the actual investigation.  The only person who knows every detail of what went on at White House Farm that night is Jeremy Bamber and he has been in prison since 1986.

[ActualMat]

He threatened to sue everybody by the looks of it.  I got so sick of his crap I deleted his account.  In my opinion he has nothing to offer the actual investigation, only two people know what happened at White House Farm that night and one of them has been in prison since 1986.

I felt special, but now  that he's threatend to sue lots of people...not so much

[Tim Invictus]

Is there such a thing as a trade descriptions Act for novelists who publish crap?   I ask the question because so much of that intro on the Amazon site is pure invention?

The very first line is untrue for instance.

"A meticulously researched and ground-breaking new look at the White House Farm Murders of 1986."

The murders were in 1985, not 1986.  So much for the meticulous research.


"...in the last couple of years a huge amount of material has come to light -- much of it apparently deliberately suppressed at the time of the trial -- bringing growing support for Bamber, both by forensic experts, in the press, and by the public. "

No material has come to light which has been of any advantage to the defence, again more spin.  As for support, most people who take the time to study the true facts in the case eventually realise Bamber is a filthy murderer."


"Bamber's internet profile is so compelling and widespread that it would put a public relations company to shame."

This one really takes the biscuit.  Fortunately due to this forum Bambers internet profile has been all but destroyed.  Thousands of people who would have otherwise been taken in by the rubbish posted on sites like Tesko's are now much wiser as to what really happened at White House farm.  Lets hope the book isn't anything like the intro.

Not only is the year of the murders wrong but so is Bamber's age .... he was 25 not 24 as stated when he was convicted!

 

[Holly Goodhead]

I'm currently reading Scott Lomax's book.  I will reserve judgement until I finish it off but so far I am not impressed.  I'm flicking between chapters.  Chapter 16 'Proof of innocence' covers:

- Movement at window
- Communication with someone inside WHF
- Call to EP from NB
- SC seen in kitchen by raid team

Cant buy into any of the above.

Anyway according to NGB on Blue it now looks unlikely that the proposed book releases by Carol Ann Lee and Mason Doyle will surface in the near future, if at all!  Make of that what you will!  NGB seems to imply that there's some legal issues but other factors might be at play too!?

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5735.msg255059.html#msg255059



 

[John]

I'm currently reading Scott Lomax's book.  I will reserve judgement until I finish it off but so far I am not impressed.  I'm flicking between chapters.  Chapter 16 'Proof of innocence' covers:

- Movement at window
- Communication with someone inside WHF
- Call to EP from NB
- SC seen in kitchen by raid team

Cant buy into any of the above.

Anyway according to NGB on Blue it now looks unlikely that the proposed book releases by Carol Ann Lee and Mason Doyle will surface in the near future, if at all!  Make of that what you will!  NGB seems to imply that there's some legal issues but other factors might be at play too!?

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5735.msg255059.html#msg255059

Thanx for that Holly...maybe they have had a lightbulb moment?