If the children were being sedated...

[peter claridge]

Indeed - she could have fainted on the spot with the shock - or her throat could have been so constricted with fear and her mouth so dry that she couldn't speak -  or her legs could have turned to jelly so that she couldn't run........ the list of all the different ways sudden and extreme shock can affect a human being is very long.

So that's why Jane didn't tell Kate about the abductor!

[jassi]

If they had gone on holiday without taking the "most effective methods" with them, where do you suppose they might have sourced other, less effective methods?

Who Knows? As a GP, she would be offered all sorts of pharmaceutical samples.

[stephen25000]

Deflect what from whom exactly?

 >@@(*&)

[Benice]

So that's why Jane didn't tell Kate about the abductor!

JT had no idea that Madeleine would not be found at any moment so why would she want to add to Kates terrible distress at that time when there may have been no need to.    As soon as the police arrived she told them - and that is all that mattered.

Anyway we are way off topic - so my last post on this.

[Alfred R Jones]

Who Knows? As a GP, she would be offered all sorts of pharmaceutical samples.

Whilst on holiday?

[icabodcrane]

More pertinently imo - why didn't the PJ get them checked out.   If it was proved that drugs had been administered then surely that would be vital evidence -  and because of that I don't think the McCanns could have had checks done themselves -  IMO it could only done under the auspices of the PJ - as part of an ongoing enquiry.

Quote from KM's book

''Since Madeleine was snatched apparently without making a sound, we had always suspected that all three children might have been sedated by the abductor.   We mentioned this to the police that night and several more times in the following weeks, but no testing of urine, blood or hair, which could have revealed the presence of drugs, had ever been done.''
Unquote

A report from a FLO also confirms that the McCanns asked the PJ about the possibility of drugs having been used.

However, IIRC it was the PJ's decision not to do the tests.

See now,  this is one of those head-scratching occasions that occur frequently  in this case 

Here was Kate McCann so concerned that her children might have been drugged that she mentioned it to the police

Yet she did not,  once,  attempt to rouse them  ...   to  SEE  if they'd been drugged or not

She is a doctor  ...  a qualified anethetist  ...   who would surely have recognised the symptoms of a child who has been sedated by the response they give  (  or fail to give  )  on being roused 

Why didn't she try to wake them up  ? 

[sadie]

See now,  this is one of those head-scratching occasions that occur frequently  in this case 

Here was Kate McCann so concerned that her children might have been drugged that she mentioned it to the police

Yet she did not,  once,  attempt to rouse them  ...   to  SEE  if they'd been drugged or not

She is a doctor  ...  a qualified anethetist  ...   who would surely have recognised the symptoms of a child who has been sedated by the response they give  (  or fail to give  )  on being roused 

Why didn't she try to wake them up  ?

How do you know if, with all the distress she was suffering, she had even taken in that the twins were (maybe) especially sleepy that night?  Or was it the next day ... or the day after that etc., when upon reflection and listening to others, she wondered?


And anyway, Icabod to wake a sleeping child up?  Twins at that?
You are REAL, are you Icabod? 
Wake them up! Jeez. 

With all that distress and chaos they would never have got to sleep again.  The yowling would have been horrendous.

[icabodcrane]

How do you know if, with all the distress she was suffering, she had even taken in that the twins were (maybe) especially sleepy that night?  Or was it the next day ... or the day after that etc., when upon reflection and listening to others, she wondered?


And anyway, Icabod to wake a sleeping child up?  Twins at that?
You are REAL, are you Icabod? 
Wake them up! Jeez. 

With all that distress and chaos they would never have got to sleep again.  The yowling would have been horrendous.

Benice quoted Kate saying that she had told the police, on the very night Madeleine went missing,   that she was concerned all three children had been sedated by an intruder

If she was concerned enough to mention the possibility to the police then   of course  it is reasonable to think she would have tried to rouse the twins

I mean, if she was really concerned that they might have been sedated  then the obvious thing to do was to try and wake them    ...  so she would know  for sure whether her kids had been drugged or not

...  yet she never  even tried 

That makes no sense

[stephen25000]

How do you know if, with all the distress she was suffering, she had even taken in that the twins were (maybe) especially sleepy that night?  Or was it the next day ... or the day after that etc., when upon reflection and listening to others, she wondered?


And anyway, Icabod to wake a sleeping child up?  Twins at that?
You are REAL, are you Icabod? 
Wake them up! Jeez. 

With all that distress and chaos they would never have got to sleep again.  The yowling would have been horrendous.

Yet the twins never woke up through all the commotion, now why is that I wonder ?

[Mr Gray]

Yet the twins never woke up through all the commotion, now why is that I wonder ?

it's all been discussed ..millions of times...you obviously haven't been paying attention

[stephen25000]

it's all been discussed ..millions of times...you obviously haven't been paying attention

Oh, but I have.

[Cariad]

How do you know if, with all the distress she was suffering, she had even taken in that the twins were (maybe) especially sleepy that night?  Or was it the next day ... or the day after that etc., when upon reflection and listening to others, she wondered?


And anyway, Icabod to wake a sleeping child up?  Twins at that?
You are REAL, are you Icabod? 
Wake them up! Jeez. 

With all that distress and chaos they would never have got to sleep again.  The yowling would have been horrendous.

Leave them alone Sadie? With a paedophile on the loose?

Are you REAL Sadie?

THINK about it. Jeez.

[John]

Some interesting posts guys.  The twins sleeping even while Gerry and Kate are wailing in the bed in the next room is hard to take in.  By the way I don't make any excuses for using the word 'wailing' as it precisely describes the pain they were experiencing.  The pain of having lost Madeleine but the unanswered question is how lost?  Deceased, abducted or both?

[Benice]

Some interesting posts guys.  The twins sleeping even while Gerry and Kate are wailing in the bed in the next room is hard to take in.   By the way I don't make any excuses for using the word 'wailing' as it precisely describes the pain they were experiencing.  The pain of having lost Madeleine but the unanswered question is how lost?  Deceased, abducted or both?

I don't find it hard to take in at all.  I'm sure many people have been at weddings, family parties or other social gatherings where a disco for instance is blasting out - and seen little tots fast asleep in their buggies totally oblivious to the racket going on around them.

[Alfred R Jones]

I don't find it hard to take in at all.  I'm sure many people have been at weddings, family parties or other social gatherings where a disco for instance is blasting out - and seen little tots fast asleep in their buggies totally oblivious to the racket going on around them.

I did make the point earlier about the McCann child being removed from the aeroplane and taken down the steps by his father to face the media scrum, all the while remaining seemingly fast asleep.