Jeremy Bamber - Debunking Mike Tesko's strange theories

[Nicholas]

So, did lookout mean that after the first shot, she made something to eat? i read the post quickly!

I probably read it wrong.

No, that's what it looks like. Sheila shot herself in the throat, somehow managed not to bleed or go into shock or choke on her own blood, and made herself a sandwich.

So at what point did she have a bath and read the bible?

Just after she ran around the house, shouting and barking like a dog.

Can you imagine how much blood there would have been after the first shot, from the damage to the soft tissue? All that blood collected in a pouch in her neck, because she didn't move after that shot.

Sorry to interupt - are there any members left on the blue forum who do not exist?? A in are they all real people now?

[starryian]

So, did lookout mean that after the first shot, she made something to eat? i read the post quickly!

I probably read it wrong.

No, that's what it looks like. Sheila shot herself in the throat, somehow managed not to bleed or go into shock or choke on her own blood, and made herself a sandwich.

So at what point did she have a bath and read the bible?

Just after she ran around the house, shouting and barking like a dog.

Can you imagine how much blood there would have been after the first shot, from the damage to the soft tissue? All that blood collected in a pouch in her neck, because she didn't move after that shot.

A wound like that would have bled profusely. It's lunacy to suggest otherwise. Incidently this first wound, I strongly believe that this would have knocked her totally unconscious. A friend of mine who does some amateur boxing said that it only takes 50 pounds of pressure to the chin to knock a boxer out cold. The force of sub-sonic bullet smashing into the jaw bone and soft tissue from a short distance away and at that speed doesn't bare thinking about. Sheila would not have been able to move much less go walking around the house and make herself a sandwich!

[Myster]

Why don't they make an effort to read the Vanezis' pathology reports! 

The first bullet wound penetrated the neck muscle, severed the jugular vein, shattered a cervical vertebra and would have caused her to fall to the ground in an instant. In his opinion she had not got up or moved prior to receiving the second wound which would have been instantly fatal.

All the misinformation for the gullible stems from Teskowski's four dreary monologues on Youtube which continue to perpetuate the myth of Sheila being found in the kitchen and making her own way upstairs.

[starryian]

Why don't they make an effort to read the Vanezis' pathology reports! 

The first bullet wound penetrated the neck muscle, severed the jugular vein, shattered a cervical vertebra and would have caused her to fall to the ground in an instant. In his opinion she had not got up or moved prior to receiving the second wound which would have been instantly fatal.

All the misinformation for the gullible stems from Teskowski's four dreary monologues on Youtube which continue to perpetuate the myth of Sheila being found in the kitchen and making her own way upstairs.

Quite right Myster,
Vanezis pathology report makes it quite clear that Sheila would havce been incapable of getting up after the first shot was fired. The shot would probably have been fatal given time.
This theory has now been completely debunked and seen for what it really is; complete hogwash. I think it also says a lot about  Bamber's supporters - they are either completely blinded by Tesko's diatribes or they are incredibly naive and just do not read or take in anything that conflicts with it. This in itself, no big deal, but these people have the vote!

[Naive]

Why don't they make an effort to read the Vanezis' pathology reports! 

The first bullet wound penetrated the neck muscle, severed the jugular vein, shattered a cervical vertebra and would have caused her to fall to the ground in an instant. In his opinion she had not got up or moved prior to receiving the second wound which would have been instantly fatal.

All the misinformation for the gullible stems from Teskowski's four dreary monologues on Youtube which continue to perpetuate the myth of Sheila being found in the kitchen and making her own way upstairs.

Quite right Myster,
Vanezis pathology report makes it quite clear that Sheila would havce been incapable of getting up after the first shot was fired. The shot would probably have been fatal given time.
This theory has now been completely debunked and seen for what it really is; complete hogwash. I think it also says a lot about  Bamber's supporters - they are either completely blinded by Tesko's diatribes or they are incredibly naive and just do not read or take in anything that conflicts with it. This in itself, no big deal, but these people have the vote!

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[goatboy]

I've always thought that the idea Sheila could have wounded herself with the first shot then ran upstairs sounds like something out of a bad horror film. The fact that there was no blood having run down her chest proves this could not have happened. And do people on the Tesko forum think she had a shower after wounding herself in the throat non fatally?

Incidentally if Mike was on the same wing in jail as Bamber surely he must have been in prison for a pretty serious offence. Do we know what Mike was actually in prison for?

What particularly fascinates me about Bamber is that he spent a lot of time with people like Mike and Aunt Agatha convincing them of his innocence. When he felt they had outlived their usefulness he cut off all ties with them, however, Mike and Aunt Agatha still remain fiercely loyal to someone who has not exactly been particularly nice to them. Why is this? Is he someone who is adept at charming people and being able to manipulate and control them? With this in mind I have no problem with the thought that he could have persuaded Julie to keep quiet about what she knew for so long, and even that he could have persuaded Sheila to lie down while he shot her.

[abs]

I too believe that Sheila received both shots relatively close to one another in time AND in location. I don´t see her running around for any length of time. That would have been impossible in my opinion.

[starryian]

I too believe that Sheila received both shots relatively close to one another in time AND in location. I don´t see her running around for any length of time. That would have been impossible in my opinion.

Absolutely Abs. There is simply no way that after receiving the first shot that Sheila went anywhere.
What is suprising is just how many on the blue forum actually fell for this cock n bull story. It is often said, that within a crowd conformity becomes everything. I believe that is what is happening on that site. There seems to be very few people willing to challenge these ludicrous and non-sensical ideas. Then again it was Adolf Hitler that once said 'The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it'

..............Pause for thought     8-)(--)

[John]

I too believe that Sheila received both shots relatively close to one another in time AND in location. I don´t see her running around for any length of time. That would have been impossible in my opinion.

Absolutely Abs. There is simply no way that after receiving the first shot that Sheila went anywhere.
What is suprising is just how many on the blue forum actually fell for this cock n bull story. It is often said, that within a crowd conformity becomes everything. I believe that is what is happening on that site. There seems to be very few people willing to challenge these ludicrous and non-sensical ideas. Then again it was Adolf Hitler that once said 'The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it'

..............Pause for thought     8-)(--)

It's amazing when you sit down and look at who is involved now after so many have come across to us. 

Who's left on the guilty side?  Mike, Neil, Grahame, Keira, Roch and the trolls (sounds like the name of a band!)   

[Nicholas]

I too believe that Sheila received both shots relatively close to one another in time AND in location. I don´t see her running around for any length of time. That would have been impossible in my opinion.

Absolutely Abs. There is simply no way that after receiving the first shot that Sheila went anywhere.
What is suprising is just how many on the blue forum actually fell for this cock n bull story. It is often said, that within a crowd conformity becomes everything. I believe that is what is happening on that site. There seems to be very few people willing to challenge these ludicrous and non-sensical ideas. Then again it was Adolf Hitler that once said 'The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it'

..............Pause for thought     8-)(--)

It's amazing when you sit down and look at who is involved now after so many have come across to us. 

Who's left on the guilty side?  Mike, Neil, Grahame, Keira, Roch and the trolls (sounds like the name of a band!)   

Neil is a troll I believe!!!  Has anyone ever spoken to Roch?

[abs]

You mean left the innocent side, right John?

Just to clarify, personally I am undecided as I have been from get go, with a slant towards Jeremy being innocent. Call me stupid all you want!! 

[Andrea]

Youre certainly not stupid, abs.

I did, once upon a time lean towards innocence.

[John]

You mean left the innocent side, right John?

Just to clarify, personally I am undecided as I have been from get go, with a slant towards Jeremy being innocent. Call me stupid all you want!! 

I know you are undecided abs but you must admit that the evidence which renders Sheila innocent is rather strong.

[abs]

You mean left the innocent side, right John?

Just to clarify, personally I am undecided as I have been from get go, with a slant towards Jeremy being innocent. Call me stupid all you want!! 

I know you are undecided abs but you must admit that the evidence which renders Sheila innocent is rather strong.

I am not convinced - obviously. If I had been on that jury, I probably would not have found the evidence strong enough and would have had to go for an acquittal - as two of the jurors did.

P.S. I would not be able to write to Jeremy - I am not that convinced of his innocence either. In that sense, I couldn't write anything like, "So sorry you are incarcerated for something you did not do."  So a letter from me is unthinkable - I wouldn't know what to write, and I wouldn't REALLY know whether I was writing to a murderer!

[John]

You mean left the innocent side, right John?

Just to clarify, personally I am undecided as I have been from get go, with a slant towards Jeremy being innocent. Call me stupid all you want!! 

I know you are undecided abs but you must admit that the evidence which renders Sheila innocent is rather strong.

I am not convinced - obviously. If I had been on that jury, I probably would not have found the evidence strong enough and would have had to go for an acquittal - as two of the jurors did.

P.S. I would not be able to write to Jeremy - I am not that convinced of his innocence either. In that sense, I couldn't write anything like, "So sorry you are incarcerated for something you did not do."  So a letter from me is unthinkable - I wouldn't know what to write, and I wouldn't REALLY know whether I was writing to a murderer!

You do realise that it had to be Jeremy or Sheila?   Jeremy had to be involved after what he said about the alleged telephone conversation with his father.

What makes you think Sheila could have done it given the amount of evidence which supports her?