Judge approves request by McCanns to obtain Amaral fiscal records from tax authorities.

[jassi]

This doesn't make sense.  Why would The Judge make this order if she already has the information?

Perhaps what the judge has are statements from the defendants regarding financial earnings, rather than an official statement from the Tax Office. It could be that the defence is questioning its accuracy.

[Eleanor]

Perhaps what the judge has are statements from the defendants regarding financial earnings, rather than an official statement from the Tax Office. It could be that the defence is questioning its accuracy.

Do you mean that The Plaintiffs are questioning the accuracy?

The Tax Office can't be questioned, but The Defendants can be questioned, as opposed to questioning.

[jassi]

Do you mean that The Plaintiffs are questioning the accuracy?

The Tax Office can't be questioned, but The Defendants can be questioned, as opposed to questioning.

Yes, sorry.
I'm assuming that the plaintiffs are suspicious of the accuracy of any financial statement, other than that of an official tax document.

[Eleanor]

Yes, sorry.
I'm assuming that the plaintiffs are suspicious of the accuracy of any financial statement, other than that of an official tax document.

That is what I thought you meant.  Not a problem because we all make mistakes.

But I thought that Amaral had been asked to produce IRS Documents six months ago, which he obviously hasn't done.  Otherwise the Judge would not have validated this request.

Any suspicion is by the by.  In a Court of Law only official documents would be acceptable, even for The Judge.

[Montclair]

That is what I thought you meant.  Not a problem because we all make mistakes.

But I thought that Amaral had been asked to produce IRS Documents six months ago, which he obviously hasn't done.  Otherwise the Judge would not have validated this request.

Any suspicion is by the by.  In a Court of Law only official documents would be acceptable, even for The Judge.

Have you read any of the previous posts or do you just ignore the ones which don't do along with your prejudices? All of the defendents provided the court with the documents requested, now ID has asked for the same information from the tax department. So, please refrain from saying that Gonçalo Amaral did not hand over the documents.

[Carana]

It just seemed strange that it was the plaintiff that had to produce the document, (which they presumably don't have), rather than the defendant.

Not necessarily in a legal system in which the plaintiffs have to provide evidence.

[Eleanor]

Have you read any of the previous posts or do you just ignore the ones which don't do along with your prejudices? All of the defendents provided the court with the documents requested, now ID has asked for the same information from the tax department. So, please refrain from saying that Gonçalo Amaral did not hand over the documents.

Please can you tell me why The Judge has agreed to this request, if as you say, Goncalo Amaral has already handed them over.

[John]

The plaintiffs are obviously attempting to establish what Gonçalo Amaral's net earning were from the book.  All very well assuming all tax returns have been made to date.

[Eleanor]

The plaintiffs are obviously attempting to establish what Gonçalo Amaral's net earning were from the book.  All very well assuming all tax returns have been made to date.

The few documents I saw On Line from the publisher to Goncalo Amaral regarding sums paid over, had the tax deducted at source.

[Montclair]

Why do you assume that this request is aimed at Gonçalo Amaral? As an independent worker with "recibos verdes" it is virtually impossible to con the tax man. You seem to forget that there are three other defendents and as companies they could more easily find tax loopholes and other ways to hide their income than an individual could, not that I am saying that they did.

IMO, this request, although legitimate, made by Isabel Duarte is only done in order to delay the trial even more, since she is aware of her poorly prepared case and the possible verdict against her clients. In her desperation, she is hoping, with the changes in the judiciary map, for the possibility of a new judge.

[Mr Gray]

If you read the second paragraph it states that Isabel Duarte requested a court order to obtain the information from the tax authorities. Therefore, it is not up to the defendents to obtain this information, it is done by a court order. The defendents have already provided their documents with regard to this question and now ID is asking for this court order in order to delay the trial even more.

you are making very little sense and it shows how little you know about the case that someone from the UK has to correct you. The Mccanns have to apply for the records using the court order that the judge has granted them

[Jean-Pierre]

I suspect the judge is interested in the full picture.  Amarals earnings from the book and documentary may be only part of his earnings from this case - there are also TV shows, newspaper articles etc for which he may have been paid. 

Wasn't he demanding eighty thousand euros for an interview, back in the days when he was cock of the walk. 

All in all, the granting of this request does not bode well for Amaral. 

[Alice Purjorick]

It could be construed that Sra Duarte and Judge Maria Emília de Melo e Castro are both merely doing their jobs diligently.
It seems this forum adores quantum leaps based on little evidence.

[Brietta]

I suspect the judge is interested in the full picture.  Amarals earnings from the book and documentary may be only part of his earnings from this case - there are also TV shows, newspaper articles etc for which he may have been paid. 

Wasn't he demanding eighty thousand euros for an interview, back in the days when he was cock of the walk. 

All in all, the granting of this request does not bode well for Amaral.

I think the only accurate documentation that will be available to the court regarding Dr Amaral’s known income will be from the tax authorities.  This information would be essential to establish the amount payable in damages should the court find in the Drs McCann’s favour. 
It is a great pity that when a settlement had almost been reached last year the opportunity was not taken, in that way Dr Amaral’s present finances could have remained his own and the tax authorities affair.

I also find it interesting that the blame attributed to the Drs McCann for Dr Amaral’s parlous financial situation is nothing at all to do with them but is entirely of his own making. 

 - SNIP -
About this house there were pending asset freezings originated by the tax authorities, as the interviewee in question, despite being a civil servant, had tax problems, long before the publication of the book and of the documentary. Currently this house is owned by Banco Espirito Santo, one of the creditors, with visible credit problems with the referred interviewee, long before the publication of the book, and, therefore, the actions brought by the respondents.

 - SNIP -
As for the pension that the former inspector receives, in the amount of € 2,039.16, it's being deducted from it a percentage of less than 0.1% of the known values received by the ex-inspector for the book and documentary, which he delivered finished to his publishers even before the criminal process, which was under judicial secrecy, had been archived, thus disrespecting the ex-inspector, in this as in other aspects, duties incumbent to him, even in the situation of retirement. Moreover, on this pension, there has previously been executed a seizure, originated in a process by the Finance Services of Olhao, for tax debts. http://www.mccannfiles.com/id408.html

[faithlilly]

I wonder how long it will take for the financial information provided to Isabel Duarte/McCanns by Amaral to enter the public domain via a few 'willing friends' ?

I'll give it a month before certain supporter forums are chewing over the private details like cows chewing the cud !