Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine

[faithlilly]

We have just had a response to this question from the man himself and he states categorically that he was a police officer with South Yorkshire Police when he was deployed to Praia da Luz. He adds that this was with the full support of the then Chief Constable.

If Summers and Swan cannot even get the basics right what else have they got wrong?

Thank you John for putting that particular piece of misinformation to bed.

[Alfred R Jones]

We have just had a response to this question from the man himself and he states categorically that he was a police officer with South Yorkshire Police when he was deployed to Praia da Luz. He adds that this was with the full support of the then Chief Constable.

If Summers and Swan cannot even get the basics right what else have they got wrong?

What do they say to the contrary?  Page reference please.

[Alfred R Jones]

I followed the link ... and if people are content to have their intelligence insulted by such an obvious deceit- that is entirely their own decision.
I cannot understand why people allow their opinions to be manipulated by someone telling them what to think.  Why not just buy the book ... read it ... and make up their own minds?

Why is it necessary that someone reads it for them ... then tells them what to think?  Extraordinary behaviour.

Because the blog author is obviously very worried by the book and its contents, as it makes it extremely clear that abduction is the only logical theory as to what happened to Madeleine. It's why it's caused such a stink in Scepticland.  The conclusions of the book are irrefutable, try as they might to pick little holes in the finer detail.

[John]

What do they say to the contrary?  Page reference please.

Best ask ferryman as he reported it.

I particularly like the way the authors tend to quote Grime, in that section, rather than stating what Grime says as if authoritative fact.

They are quite right that Grime was freelance in PdL.

We can't judge whether Grime's claim to be in post at South Yorkshire Police when he wrote his profile is true or not, because his profile is not dated.

[Alfred R Jones]

Best ask ferryman as he reported it.

Hmm, well I've revisited all the pages where Grime's name is mentioned and I didn't see that, must have missed it.

[faithlilly]

Because the blog author is obviously very worried by the book and its contents, as it makes it extremely clear that abduction is the only logical theory as to what happened to Madeleine. It's why it's caused such a stink in Scepticland.  The conclusions of the book are irrefutable, try as they might to pick little holes in the finer detail.

Interesting that the 'little holes in the finer detail' are all to the McCanns benefit.

[Mr Gray]

Interesting that the 'little holes in the finer detail' are all to the McCanns benefit.

That's because the McCanns are not under suspicion as regards the disappearance of Maddie. I would have thougyt that if they were under suspicion the Portuguese would have wanted to interview them and it appears they haven't

[faithlilly]

That's because the McCanns are not under suspicion as regards the disappearance of Maddie. I would have thougyt that if they were under suspicion the Portuguese would have wanted to interview them and it appears they haven't

And you know this how ?

[Wonderfulspam]

That's because the McCanns are not under suspicion as regards the disappearance of Maddie. I would have thougyt that if they were under suspicion the Portuguese would have wanted to interview them and it appears they haven't

Of course SY have re interviewed them though haven't they

When was that again?

[Alfred R Jones]

Interesting that the 'little holes in the finer detail' are all to the McCanns benefit.

So what difference does it make to the McCanns  if Grime was freelance or worked for South Yorks police?

[Alfred R Jones]

And you know this how ?

If the McCanns were suspects and the PJ had interviewed them, it would have been as arguidos.  Do you think they've secretly made them arguidos then?

[faithlilly]

So what difference does it make to the McCanns  if Grime was freelance or worked for South Yorks police?

Come now Alfred, don't be coy. It has been suggested by supporters that Grime used his time in PDL to drum up trade for his fledgling freelance business. This argument would be a nonsense if, as has now been verified, he was a serving police officer at the time.

Of course I'm sure you'd never be as silly, would you ?

[Alfred R Jones]

Come now Alfred, don't be coy. It has been suggested by supporters that Grime used his time in PDL to drum up trade for his fledgling freelance business. This argument would be a nonsense if, as has now been verified, he was a serving police officer at the time.

Of course I'm sure you'd never be as silly, would you ?

  And this would have a bearing on the McCanns' guilt or innocence how exactly?  A) Did S & S actually state that Grime was "freelance" in their book B) if they did, did they draw any inference from this and if so, C) what was it?  Come on, you keep telling us the book is full of mendacious,  McCann-favouring misinformation, let's see some actual evidence of this!

[Mr Gray]

Come now Alfred, don't be coy. It has been suggested by supporters that Grime used his time in PDL to drum up trade for his fledgling freelance business. This argument would be a nonsense if, as has now been verified, he was a serving police officer at the time.

Of course I'm sure you'd never be as silly, would you ?

Grime knew he would shortly be turning freelance...same argument applies. The only nonsense is that some believe that the alerts confirm a dead body previously in 5a

[John]

Grime knew he would shortly be turning freelance...same argument applies. The only nonsense is that some believe that the alerts confirm a dead body previously in 5a

That's untrue and wholly disingenuous Dave.   Martin was undecided as to retirement when he was deployed to PdL, it was other factors which made up his mind for him.  He was not to know how the events were to be played out in the town, after all, he was only following instructions.