Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine

[Mr Gray]

Seems Summers and wife have spat their dummies out of the pram and removed all trace of their book from their Facebook page.

Not at all...they are probably astonished at the level of abuse they have experienced....next book will be an expose on hate sites on the internet

[stephen25000]

Not at all...they are probably astonished at the level of abuse they have experienced....next book will be an expose on hate sites on the internet

What is more likely, is they will write about a less contentious subject, after the debacle of this book.

[Mr Gray]

What is more likely, is they will write about a less contentious subject, after the debacle of this book.

The book is of no real importance to most people but you and faith seemed obsessed by it.......it's early to see how successful it will be..it's certainly raised their profile enormously...so how many copies has it sold...you haven't got a clue

[stephen25000]

The book is of no real importance to most people but you and faith seemed obsessed by it.......it's early to see how successful it will be..it's certainly raised their profile enormously...so how many copies has it sold...you haven't got a clue

No dave, wrong as usual.

I'm taking the pizz out of it.

[Alfred R Jones]

When is Wilkins memory of the event going to be clearest, seven months after the event or a year after the event ?

Wilkins memory of the visibility at the time :

'Q. Relative to the visibility and lighting conditions;
I believe that the time I left it was dusk (the term lusco-fusco used in this statement is a Portuguese expression to define those brief moments when day and night intermingle in an undefined state, dusk, when day isn't still night) or nighttime when I returned and I do not remember if it was already dark when I spoke with Gerry. There were no weather conditions that impacted visibility. Given the lighting and the atmospheric conditions, I believe that it would have been possible to see if an individual was near but evidently, the greater the distance, the harder the difficulty in seeing. I would say that when I spoke with Gerry it was possible to recognize someone I knew who was passing on foot at the crossing at the top of the hill or to describe approximately someone unknown from that distance.'

Q. Relative to the passerby/transient
I can affirm that it was a quiet street and it was very unlikely that someone could have passed by be in this way but this as an assumption and I do not remember anything having happened.

And yet his recollection was fuzzy, as proven by the rogatory, a source document for the book, you know, the one in which the authors "d............." wrote that he and Gerry's recollections were fuzzy.   Should the authors have disregarded all information contained in the Rogs then in your view?

[Alfred R Jones]

When is Wilkins memory of the event going to be clearest, seven months after the event or a year after the event ?

Wilkins memory of the visibility at the time :

'Q. Relative to the visibility and lighting conditions;
I believe that the time I left it was dusk (the term lusco-fusco used in this statement is a Portuguese expression to define those brief moments when day and night intermingle in an undefined state, dusk, when day isn't still night) or nighttime when I returned and I do not remember if it was already dark when I spoke with Gerry. There were no weather conditions that impacted visibility. Given the lighting and the atmospheric conditions, I believe that it would have been possible to see if an individual was near but evidently, the greater the distance, the harder the difficulty in seeing. I would say that when I spoke with Gerry it was possible to recognize someone I knew who was passing on foot at the crossing at the top of the hill or to describe approximately someone unknown from that distance.'

Q. Relative to the passerby/transient
I can affirm that it was a quiet street and it was very unlikely that someone could have passed by be in this way but this as an assumption and I do not remember anything having happened.

He can't remember if it was. dark and only assumes that it would not have been possible for JT to pass him.  Sounds pretty fuzzy to me!

[John]

Are you unaware of the fact that Scotland Yard have already said that the evidence is indicative of a stranger abduction?

That wouldn't square with their comment that she may have been deceased when she left the apartment though.

[Mr Gray]

A victory for the "sceptics" then, well done.  Your campaign of vitriol and spite has in effect forced the authors' hands.  You must be delighted!

I don't think it is a victory...mob rule is never victorious...these [ censored word ]s are showing how unreasonable they are. The hate towards the mccanns was bad enough but it seems anyone who publicly supports them gets the same treatment. Showing just how nasty and unreasonable you are to an investigative reporter is not very clever

[Brietta]

Not at all...they are probably astonished at the level of abuse they have experienced....next book will be an expose on hate sites on the internet

I agree that they will write about this in the future.

They have written a fairly innocuous book ... only to engender unprecedented attack ... it will certainly have given them an insight into the abuse suffered day and daily by the McCann family for over seven years.

[John]

The words dishonest/dishonesty imply a will to deceive and unless this can be proven beyond doubt they should not be used.  Acceptable terms would be inaccurate or mistaken or even disingenuous.

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[John]

I agree that they will write about this in the future.

They have written a fairly innocuous book ... only to engender unprecedented attack ... it will certainly have given them an insight into the abuse suffered day and daily by the McCann family for over seven years.

Do you not think they knew what they were taking on when they made the conscious decision to write this book Brietta?

Is it not obvious that the launch of this book was timed to correspond with both the inquiry in Praia da Luz and the judgement in Lisbon.   

[Alfred R Jones]

I don't think it is a victory...mob rule is never victorious...these [ censored word ] are showing how unreasonable they are. The hate towards the mccanns was bad enough but it seems anyone who publicly supports them gets the same treatment. Showing just how nasty and unreasonable you are to an investigative reporter is not very clever

I agree completely.  Methinks the extraordinary vitriol this book has engendered will come back to bite the bile-spitters on the bum sometime soon.

[Mr Gray]

Do you not think they knew what they were taking on when they made the conscious decision to write this book Brietta?

Is it not obvious that the launch of this book was timed to correspond with both the inquiry in Praia da Luz and the judgement in Lisbon.

I doubt they expected so much personal abuse...the reviews to the book are not mainly those who have read it...but part of a group who are almost full time critics of the mccanns

[Alfred R Jones]

Do you not think they knew what they were taking on when they made the conscious decision to write this book Brietta?

Is it not obvious that the launch of this book was timed to correspond with both the inquiry in Praia da Luz and the judgement in Lisbon.

I know you weren't asking me, but I'd be very surprised if the authors fully appreciated just how much under attack they would become by the venomous Anti McCann brigade, simply for writing a reasonably fair account of the known facts of the case to date.   Still, it's given them plenty of material for their next book. 

[Brietta]

Do you not think they knew what they were taking on when they made the conscious decision to write this book Brietta?

Is it not obvious that the launch of this book was timed to correspond with both the inquiry in Praia da Luz and the judgement in Lisbon.

Well they know now, John.

They just hadn’t thought ahead to realise that what they were doing was the equivalent of putting a match to the holy Koran in the main street of Riyadh.

Then they shouldn't have had to.