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stephen25000

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #885 on: September 28, 2014, 07:21:08 PM »
Well page 12.

The authors refer to Madeleine being a derivation of Magdalene.

I presume they have been talking to Nigel Nessling on that one ?

Kate Mccann  a devout catholic ???

Well Susan Healy, said they, km and gm had no interest in 'religion' prior to Madeleine's disappearance, and I thought I.V.F. was prohibited, if you are a Catholic.

Mmm.

So good research then. &%&£(+ &%&£(+ &%&£(+


Offline Anna

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #886 on: September 28, 2014, 07:24:12 PM »
Of course they do.

Strange that Alfred seems so hellbent on convincing us all that the authors are beyond reproach.

As I have said before members should read the book and make up their own mind the truth of the matter.


good idea, if you will let them, instead of Nit picking and adjusting the book contents to your own preferences which would  suit, the condemnation of everything McCann, including accusing the Authors of the book.
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Offline Anna

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #887 on: September 28, 2014, 07:25:58 PM »
BS, the authors lead the uneducated reader to think that while the T9 were deciding if they were going to attend the PJ decided not to run the reconstruction. With a footnote to the chapter of the disappointment of the PJ that the T9 wouldn't all attend.

It is not a footnote at the end of the chapter!
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #888 on: September 28, 2014, 07:28:41 PM »
Of course they do.

Strange that Alfred seems so hellbent on convincing us all that the authors are beyond reproach.

As I have said before members should read the book and make up their own mind the truth of the matter.
Is that why you are hellbent at besmirching their name at every opportunity?

stephen25000

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #889 on: September 28, 2014, 07:31:09 PM »
Is that why you are hellbent at besmirching their name at every opportunity?

No need.

Judging by what I've read so far, a 10 year old could have done a lot better.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #890 on: September 28, 2014, 07:31:56 PM »
It is not a footnote at the end of the chapter!

As it comes after the reader has been misled it has a reduced impact, hence my usage of the term footnote.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #891 on: September 28, 2014, 07:34:37 PM »
BS, the authors lead the uneducated reader to think that while the T9 were deciding if they were going to attend the PJ decided not to run the reconstruction. With a footnote to the chapter of the disappointment of the PJ that the T9 wouldn't all attend.
You obviously haven't read the book.  It is not a footnote to the chapter.  Do you think, when accusing the authors of deliberately omitting the bit about the reason for the PT officials decision not to proceed with the reconstructuion that it was honest of Faithlilly to fail to mention the fact that the authors quote verbatim the PT AG a couple of hundred words later that in his view the recon did not take place "due to the refusal of some of the necessary members of the holiday group to return to our country"?   
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #892 on: September 28, 2014, 07:36:10 PM »
As it comes after the reader has been misled it has a reduced impact, hence my usage of the term footnote.
  Do you really think people are so dumb that once they are told something by an author they  are unable to process a different point of view a couple of hundred words later?  Where is the authors' ..........??  Please point it out.
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stephen25000

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #893 on: September 28, 2014, 07:38:46 PM »
Now why have they omitted on page 13, gm's repsonse on the video

'I'm not fu###in here to enjoy myself'

I can't imagine why. %£&)**# %£&)**# %£&)**#

Offline xtina

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #894 on: September 28, 2014, 08:07:41 PM »
"At Scotland Yard, Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood met with us at the outset, spoke frankly, but made it clear that he and his colleagues could not favour us – or any part of the media community – over any other parties."

- A Note on Sources in 'Looking for Madeleine' by Anthony Summers & Robbyn Swan

According to a Metropolitan Police document seen by this blog, DCI Andy Redwood and another unnamed MPS Detective Inspector met with Anthony Summers and Rubby (sic) Swan at 1200 on Friday 15th February 2013.

The (MET Police) Incident Message notes that the authors:

".. are researching a book on Madeleine with the knowledge of Mr and Mrs MCCANN and our contact details were supplied by them."

The (MET Police) message states, in bold type:

"It was made absolutely clear that any approach to nominals in this case would be detrimental to our objective of building up a productive working relationship with the Portuguese. Our clear priority is to find out what happened to Madeleine and nothing should distract from that."

It goes on to say:

"Absolutely no “off the record” comments or other information were made/given. They were politely advised that all the information is in the public domain via the PJ files on the internet, and whilst we understood the interest and value in such a book that would extend to telling the story of this investigative review, their time would be best spent getting up to speed on the available files and forming their own opinion on it."

The (MET Police) internal message, for Officers Information and classified as Low Priority, was revealed under the Freedom of Information Act.

The (MET Police) message also states:

"It was explained that despite agreeing to meet them, we were unable to assist in anyway re their project, even as far as giving them timescale’s for the review’s completion. (This was requested in order that they could tie in the publication of the book to that of our process’s end result.)"

In their book, Summers & Swan write, in July 2014:

The authors wish to make clear at the outset that, after more than two years studying this controversial case, they have seen not a shred of evidence to indicate that Gerry and Kate McCann, any member of their holiday group, or Robert Murat were at any stage – in May 2007 or subsequently – guilty of malfeasance of any kind in connection with Madeleine McCann’s disappearance or the repercussions that followed."

Three years and three months after they launched their review, now a fully-fledged investigation,  a 37 strong team of Met officers have yet to draw their own final conclusion.

The Met, it seems,  were unable to fall in line with the publisher’s marketing plans.

Can it be that Summers and Swan’s book , described as ‘the definitive account of the Madeleine McCann case’,  came rather too soon?
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The message also states:

"It was explained that despite agreeing to meet them, we were unable to assist in anyway re their project, even as far as giving them timescale’s for the review’s completion. (This was requested in order that they could tie in the publication of the book to that of our process’s end result.)"
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The (Met Police/OG) message also states:

"THIS WAS REQUESTED IN ORDER THAT THEY COULD 'TIE IN' THE PUBLICATION OF THE 'BOOK' TO THAT OF 'OUR' PROCESS'S 'END RESULT'."

SO THERE YOU HAVE IT!

S&S 'book' TIMED to 'TIE IN' with OG/Met Police 'END RESULT'

So, imo, the 'book' was 'supposed' to have 'chimed' WITH the McCanns LAST libel 'date, (they weren't to know the Portuguese legal 'system' was to go belly up!)
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #895 on: September 28, 2014, 08:16:22 PM »
  Do you really think people are so dumb that once they are told something by an author they  are unable to process a different point of view a couple of hundred words later?  Where is the authors' dishonesty??  Please point it out.

So was it sloppy writing or deliberate?
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #896 on: September 28, 2014, 08:35:31 PM »
So was it sloppy writing or deliberate?
Was what deliberate?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #897 on: September 28, 2014, 09:29:22 PM »
No half truths here. It is clear that the authors wanted the reader to believe that it was not the tapas friends but the prosecutor who stopped the reconstruction from happening and if you can't see that Alfred then you really are more of a fool than I originally thought.
Where does it say the prosecutor stopped the reconstruction?  Why do the authors include the words of the AG where he states explicitly that the reconstruction did not take place because of the refusal of some of the group to take part?  Why did you fail to even mention the inclusion of this quote in your original post accusing the authors.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #898 on: September 28, 2014, 09:32:01 PM »
Where does it say the prosecutor wanted the reconstruction stopped?  Why do the authors include the words of the AG where he states explicitly that the reconstruction did not take place because of the refusal of some of the group to take part?  Why did you fail to even mention the inclusion of this quote in your original post accusing the authors.

It says it was stopped and it implies it was while the T9 were taking legal advice not after at least one of them had refused.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #899 on: September 28, 2014, 09:37:20 PM »
It says it was stopped and it implies it was while the T9 were taking legal advice not after at least one of them had refused.
It then goes on to clarify that the members of the holiday group refused to take part. If the authors really did want to re-write the facts they would surely have left this quote out!  Jeez, some people...