Jeremy Bamber - What it means to be in Prison today

[starryian]

Bamber said in 2001 he had had 17 jail moves and 89 cell moves since he was first arrested.
The Times alleges that he has been treated with a degree of indulgence. At Long Lartin, Worcestershire, he was reportedly given the key to his cell, studied for his GCSE in sociology and media studies, had a daily badminton lesson, and drew pictures of supermodels in art class that he sold through an outside agent. He has received compensation twice, once after suffering whiplash injuries when a van moving him between prisons crashed, and once when a Gameboy was stolen from his cell.
By his own admission Bamber has had several 'affairs' with women inside, one of them with a trainee policewoman, and that he receives 50 letters a week from women.
One has to ask..............is this fit punishment for a man who has cold-bloodedly murdered his entire family and desicrated their memories? A fitting punishment for a man that refuses to even accept reponsibility for his own appalling actions. Discuss......

[Joanne]

I suppose in Jeremy's mind it is because he thought he was in line for a farmhouse, caravan park and money etc. In my mind no it's not. He's probably better off than me, he gets fed 3 square meals a day, has his own room with games equipment etc and access to courses. In most people's worlds they have the hardship of working for not much money and no luxary which if they work, they're entitled to luxaries (car, holidays, nice house or whatever else makes them smile).

[Joanne]

The sitcom Porridge just about sums him up 

[ActualMat]

No it isn't fit punishment.
He bitched about a Gameboy? I'm sure the little boys he murdered would have liked Gameboys. He got whiplash? Well that's better than bullets in the head whilst you're sleeping!
Nasty, nasty man. It's a shame that another lifer inside doesn't attack him.

I've always wodnered if this is a reason why Bamber still says he is innocent - he's convinced some of the others prisoners that he is. But if he told the truth, he'd then be known as a child killer inside and that's a very dangerous situation to be in.

[starryian]

I suppose in Jeremy's mind it is because he thought he was in line for a farmhouse, caravan park and money etc. In my mind no it's not. He's probably better off than me, he gets fed 3 square meals a day, has his own room with games equipment etc and access to courses. In most people's worlds they have the hardship of working for not much money and no luxary which if they work, they're entitled to luxaries (car, holidays, nice house or whatever else makes them smile).

Yes I agree. Society has become immersed in the so-called 'compensation culture' The prisons are getting overly-concerned that they will be sued for the slightest infraction of a prisoners rights. Bamber knows this only too well.
I think that if a person has broken the rules of society - especially in the manner Bamber did - he/she thereby loses any rights to it. The very fact that Bamber is considered a 'danger to society' due to the nature of his crimes should also mean that he is segregated from it.

Who agrees with me on that one?...........

[Tim Invictus]

No it isn't fit punishment.
He bitched about a Gameboy? I'm sure the little boys he murdered would have liked Gameboys. He got whiplash? Well that's better than bullets in the head whilst you're sleeping!
Nasty, nasty man. It's a shame that another lifer inside doesn't attack him.

I've always wodnered if this is a reason why Bamber still says he is innocent - he's convinced some of the others prisoners that he is. But if he told the truth, he'd then be known as a child killer inside and that's a very dangerous situation to be in.

He has been attacked Mat; he was stabbed in the neck with a broken bottle whilst on the phone. He needed a lot of stitches. I personally don't care what his conditions are like as long as he knows he will die in prison and never be released.

I get your point about luxuries Jo but remember he can't even have a pot noodle or a walk or anything else that constitutes normal everyday life. 

[ActualMat]

No it isn't fit punishment.
He bitched about a Gameboy? I'm sure the little boys he murdered would have liked Gameboys. He got whiplash? Well that's better than bullets in the head whilst you're sleeping!
Nasty, nasty man. It's a shame that another lifer inside doesn't attack him.

I've always wodnered if this is a reason why Bamber still says he is innocent - he's convinced some of the others prisoners that he is. But if he told the truth, he'd then be known as a child killer inside and that's a very dangerous situation to be in.

He has been attacked Mat; he was stabbed in the neck with a broken bottle whilst on the phone. He needed a lot of stitches. I personally don't care what his conditions are like as long as he knows he will die in prison and never be released.

Yeah, I remember. It's a shame he hasn't had more treatment though - 27 years inside for the murder of two young boys would normally be a bit rougher.

[starryian]

No it isn't fit punishment.
He bitched about a Gameboy? I'm sure the little boys he murdered would have liked Gameboys. He got whiplash? Well that's better than bullets in the head whilst you're sleeping!
Nasty, nasty man. It's a shame that another lifer inside doesn't attack him.

I've always wodnered if this is a reason why Bamber still says he is innocent - he's convinced some of the others prisoners that he is. But if he told the truth, he'd then be known as a child killer inside and that's a very dangerous situation to be in.

He has been attacked Mat; he was stabbed in the neck with a broken bottle whilst on the phone. He needed a lot of stitches. I personally don't care what his conditions are like as long as he knows he will die in prison and never be released.

I get your point about luxuries Jo but remember he can't even have a pot noodle or a walk or anything else that constitutes normal everyday life.

Yes very true Tim,
Apparently he is part of a select group of prisoners that have whole life tafiffs. He will die in prison. I hope that on his death bed in his cell, he bites deep into his lip, winces and remembers the innocent lives he stole for his boundless greed. I hope as he grows into old age the ghosts of the past come back to haunt his every moment.
From this there can be no lies, no manipulation and ultimately...........no escape.

[sika]

Hi Tim,  what, if anything can you tell me about Tesko's past misdemeanors?

[abs]

I can see no reason to treat inmates in medieval style. They can have all the benefits in the world, I don´t care as long as dangerous individuals are kept away from the rest of the population. Besides, being locked up can´t be that pleasant, can it - no matter the circumstances?
I am not talking about Jeremy Bamber in particular, just generally speaking.

[Tim Invictus]

Hi Tim,  what, if anything can you tell me about Tesko's past misdemeanors?

Hi Sika. If you mean his crimes, I am not sure but Tesco claims he was banged up with Bamber but I don't  know if this is true. I am sure others on here will answer that question.

It's certainly been a criminal waste of life supporting Bamber 24/7 for over 20 years; especially since Bamber himself thinks Tesko is a nutter and wants nothing to do with him! 

[jackiepreece]

Mat how do you know Jeremy has nothing to do with Mike?

Jeremy definitely keeps it confidential who he writes to, I don't really know where you got that information

[ActualMat]

Mat how do you know Jeremy has nothing to do with Mike?

Jeremy definitely keeps it confidential who he writes to, I don't really know where you got that information

Where did I say that, Jackie?

[Joanne]

I was watching Lifers the other night, I think some of the prisoners like being in prison, they have all they need and one of them said he had no reason to live in the community, he gets fed, he's got his own room, tv etc and I've heard it a few times.

[Myster]

I can see no reason to treat inmates in medieval style. They can have all the benefits in the world, I don´t care as long as dangerous individuals are kept away from the rest of the population. Besides, being locked up can´t be that pleasant, can it - no matter the circumstances?
I am not talking about Jeremy Bamber in particular, just generally speaking.

It will be if the Howard League for Penal Reform get their way...,

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18603360

Can you just imagine a mile long disorderly queue of Bamberettes outside Full Sutton.