Jeremy Bamber - What it means to be in Prison today

[only me]

No it isn't fit punishment.
He bitched about a Gameboy? I'm sure the little boys he murdered would have liked Gameboys. He got whiplash? Well that's better than bullets in the head whilst you're sleeping!
Nasty, nasty man. It's a shame that another lifer inside doesn't attack him.

I've always wodnered if this is a reason why Bamber still says he is innocent - he's convinced some of the others prisoners that he is. But if he told the truth, he'd then be known as a child killer inside and that's a very dangerous situation to be in.

He has been attacked Mat; he was stabbed in the neck with a broken bottle whilst on the phone. He needed a lot of stitches. I personally don't care what his conditions are like as long as he knows he will die in prison and never be released.

I get your point about luxuries Jo but remember he can't even have a pot noodle or a walk or anything else that constitutes normal everyday life.

You say that like it's a bad thing...

Joking apart, I agree with you.  For someone who had apparently decided that he was worth nothing less than a life of luxury and privilege, it must be tortuous to him to be where he is now.  Richly deserved, however.

[sika]

Hi Tim,  what, if anything can you tell me about Tesko's past misdemeanors?

Hi Sika. If you mean his crimes, I am not sure but Tesco claims he was banged up with Bamber but I don't  know if this is true. I am sure others on here will answer that question.

It's certainly been a criminal waste of life supporting Bamber 24/7 for over 20 years; especially since Bamber himself thinks Tesko is a nutter and wants nothing to do with him!

Thanks Tim.

[jackiepreece]

Tim I thought you wrote it, you're not worried about undecided people being on here are you?

As for a long line of bamberettes waiting for Jeremy I think it was well documented that he was bi sexual before prison so they might be disappointed when he has been in prison for 27 years

[sika]

Mat how do you know Jeremy has nothing to do with Mike?

Jeremy definitely keeps it confidential who he writes to, I don't really know where you got that information

Forgive me butting in Jackie, Mike said that Jeremy no longer had anything to do with him.  I seem to remember Mike being quite upset about it.

[Tim Invictus]

No it isn't fit punishment.
He bitched about a Gameboy? I'm sure the little boys he murdered would have liked Gameboys. He got whiplash? Well that's better than bullets in the head whilst you're sleeping!
Nasty, nasty man. It's a shame that another lifer inside doesn't attack him.

I've always wodnered if this is a reason why Bamber still says he is innocent - he's convinced some of the others prisoners that he is. But if he told the truth, he'd then be known as a child killer inside and that's a very dangerous situation to be in.

He has been attacked Mat; he was stabbed in the neck with a broken bottle whilst on the phone. He needed a lot of stitches. I personally don't care what his conditions are like as long as he knows he will die in prison and never be released.

I get your point about luxuries Jo but remember he can't even have a pot noodle or a walk or anything else that constitutes normal everyday life.

You say that like it's a bad thing...

Joking apart, I agree with you.  For someone who had apparently decided that he was worth nothing less than a life of luxury and privilege, it must be tortuous to him to be where he is now.  Richly deserved, however.

Yep Bamber came from Porsche brochures and jetsetting it in St. Tropez to eating his porridge everyday with Denis Nilsen, Cocky Warren and all the other Cat A cons and lunatics. I can't imagine what it's like to be told you will never be released!

I notice that Bamber's website is dead as a dodo now; no more Bamber bloggs nor Freedom Fortnight campaigns! The forgotten kiddie killer!

[only me]

Yep Bamber came from Porsche brochures and jetsetting it in St. Tropez to eating his porridge everyday with Denis Nilsen, Cocky Warren and all the other Cat A cons and lunatics. I can't imagine what it's like to be told you will never be released!

I notice that Bamber's website is dead as a dodo now; no more Bamber bloggs nor Freedom Fortnight campaigns! The forgotten kiddie killer!

Well, exactly.  He can have the game-boy as far as I'm concerned. 

[Myster]

Tim I thought you wrote it, you're not worried about undecided people being on here are you?

As for a long line of bamberettes waiting for Jeremy I think it was well documented that he was bi sexual before prison so they might be disappointed when he has been in prison for 27 years

Too true Jackie..., he should be well worn out by now! 

[Tim Invictus]

Tim I thought you wrote it, you're not worried about undecided people being on here are you?

As for a long line of bamberettes waiting for Jeremy I think it was well documented that he was bi sexual before prison so they might be disappointed when he has been in prison for 27 years

No Jackie I welcome 'undecideds' or Bamber supporters as long as they behave in a decent manner. Are you an undecided now Jackie or still a staunch supporter? If you are still a staunch supporter you shouldn't be worried about speaking up! 

[jackiepreece]

Tim that is where my problems lies with Mugford

'Tonights the night'
'I should have been an actor'

I find it unbielevable that she could have gone to the mortuary and looked at the little boys with bullet holes in them

There would have been someone else could have done


Then the news of the world article, sell your story if you think you have to, but do not pose like that

Imagine Colins feelings he had just had a lengthy time in court, No celebration for Colin, and if Jeremy really was guilty she could have had him arrested earlier

From the day of Jeremys conviction Mugford was set up for life

How could she have posed like that Colin must have cried his eyes out when he saw that

[John]

I suppose in Jeremy's mind it is because he thought he was in line for a farmhouse, caravan park and money etc. In my mind no it's not. He's probably better off than me, he gets fed 3 square meals a day, has his own room with games equipment etc and access to courses. In most people's worlds they have the hardship of working for not much money and no luxary which if they work, they're entitled to luxaries (car, holidays, nice house or whatever else makes them smile).

Yes I agree. Society has become immersed in the so-called 'compensation culture' The prisons are getting overly-concerned that they will be sued for the slightest infraction of a prisoners rights. Bamber knows this only too well.
I think that if a person has broken the rules of society - especially in the manner Bamber did - he/she thereby loses any rights to it. The very fact that Bamber is considered a 'danger to society' due to the nature of his crimes should also mean that he is segregated from it.

Who agrees with me on that one?...........

Believe me most of the prisons are like glorified hotels with wall to wall, TV's, Play Stations, Ghetto-blasters, laid on meals, central heating, shopping service, football, gyms, educations units, library, live music and even trips down town with a minder for some lifers.

The only thing you cannot do is walk out the front door unless you are in an Open Prison.

[jackiepreece]

Tim
I don't believe anything anyone tells me at the moment and I am not prepared to take the attacks from the bamberettes anymore, I was only ever interested in the case anyway

I do try to get to the truth all the time, I tried to find the reporter responsible for the nude photo story to see what he says but I can't find him yet

[John]

Tim that is where my problems lies with Mugford

'Tonights the night'
'I should have been an actor'

I find it unbielevable that she could have gone to the mortuary and looked at the little boys with bullet holes in them

There would have been someone else could have done


Then the news of the world article, sell your story if you think you have to, but do not pose like that

Imagine Colins feelings he had just had a lengthy time in court, No celebration for Colin, and if Jeremy really was guilty she could have had him arrested earlier

From the day of Jeremys conviction Mugford was set up for life

How could she have posed like that Colin must have cried his eyes out when he saw that

Why are you blaming Julie Mugford Jackie?  Julie didn't conspire to commit murder.  Julie didn't break into the farmhouse and slay an entire family.  Julie wouldn't have been anywhere near Osea Road caravans if it hadn't been for Jeremy.  Julie may be many things like naive and silly but she wasn't a murderess!

[Tim Invictus]

Tim that is where my problems lies with Mugford

'Tonights the night'
'I should have been an actor'

I find it unbielevable that she could have gone to the mortuary and looked at the little boys with bullet holes in them

There would have been someone else could have done


Then the news of the world article, sell your story if you think you have to, but do not pose like that

Imagine Colins feelings he had just had a lengthy time in court, No celebration for Colin, and if Jeremy really was guilty she could have had him arrested earlier

From the day of Jeremys conviction Mugford was set up for life

How could she have posed like that Colin must have cried his eyes out when he saw that

I do agree the NOTW article was in appalling taste and I am sure the £25K deal was made before the trial although probably never put on paper. I also believe Julie told the truth and remember she had told one of her friends about it days before she split up with Bamber ... it wasn't the case of a woman scorned.

Julie's evidence isn't enough to convict Bamber on it's own but when it's added to the mountain of other circumstantial evidence it ties the whole picture together.

And no one should mistake the words circumstantial evidence for weak evidence. Cirrcumstantial evidence can be equally as compelling as direct evidence as it is in the Bamber case.

[John]

I get your point about luxuries Jo but remember he can't even have a pot noodle or a walk or anything else that constitutes normal everyday life.

Actually he can, they have a shop service in most prisons now.  You fill in an order form and an officer goes out and shops for the stuff.  Some supermarkets even do a pick and delivery service to prisons now.

He can also have a walk outside at certain times..they call it exercise.   

[jackiepreece]

John
I am not saying I blame Julie for the murders, I am saying some her behaviour makes it hard to believe she is genuine