Author Topic: New documentary:"BURIED BY MAINSTREAM MEDIA -The True Story of Madeleine McCann.  (Read 182808 times)

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ferryman

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I think the next one will be ...there are still people gullible enough to believe what Redwood says

Almost ...

Offline Carana

Indeed ferryman, SY are intelligent enough to know that there really is an abductor out there, who happens to look a bit like Gerry & had a similar pair of trousers to those modelled by Gerry & that he changes his victims pyjamas.

That's how clever they are...

I wish I was that clever.

What's unusual about having buttons on trousers? I have quite a few, ranging from buttons instead of a zip, to pockets with buttons, to buttons theoretically designed to roll up and hold the bottoms to make longish bermudas and as the odd (useless) decorative element.  I also have some with no buttons at all.

Is it particularly significant, do you think, months after the disappearance, for someone who was once on holiday to travel in such clothes?

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stephen25000

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Would anyone care to remind us of what Messrs. Edgar and Cowley found, other than in two simple letters of the alphabet ?

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Alfred R Jones

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Pray tell, what did Edgar and Cowley find, before the company was dissolved and they disappeared into never,never land ?
Totall irrelevant to my point.  I have no idea if they found anything significant or not now perhaps you can address my post properly.

stephen25000

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Pray tell, what did Edgar and Cowley find, before the company was dissolved and they disappeared into never,never land ?

Point 1.

Can you quantify the statement, that Edgar and Cowley, were 'a pair of highly experienced ex-cops' ?

Point 2.

Where they experienced in 'abduction' cases ?

Or did Kennedy employ them to give the impression of a serious 'search' for Madeleine, when in fact the company was dissolved, and the two detectives returned to obscurity ?

P.S. Have you read Blacksmith's latest ?

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stephen25000

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Well if Kennedy was the 'brains' and the money behind the operation.

Then he was responsible for what they did.

Now was he the one who pulled the plug on Alphaig, I wonder ?
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Offline pathfinder73

LP were a disgrace no wonder Amaral put a man close to Bob Small.

Gaspar statement given 2 weeks after the disappearance - it didn't arrive in Portugal until after Amaral was removed.

Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Cowley & Edgar did a great job though didn't they, focusing on the Tanner sighting which really was the most likely sighting wasn't it. Not like that old Smithman nonsense that SY are now interested in.

Strange how, when Oakley advised that they release the Smithman e-fits, they didn't.

I wonder why that might be?

I see them e-fits still don't appear on the find Madeleine website, Tannerman is still there though.

They really did leave no stone unturned in the search for their missing daughter, didn't they.


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stephen25000

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Back to the video, there are clear IRREGULARITIES with the setting up of a PI team, when a bit of research will find numerous P.I. Agencies in the UK, and by the look of it, they do look for missing/abducted people.

Why start one with people Kennedy selected, when plenty already existed, no doubt employing ex-police officers as well.

Then of course why was Alphaig closed down, barely a year after it was 'opened' ?


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Offline Benice

Back to the video, there are clear IRREGULARITIES with the setting up of a PI team, when a bit of research will find numerous P.I. Agencies in the UK, and by the look of it, they do look for missing/abducted people.

Why start one with people Kennedy selected, when plenty already existed, no doubt employing ex-police officers as well.

Then of course why was Alphaig closed down, barely a year after it was 'opened' ?



So what is this conspiracy you keep hinting at?   What was the reason for all this convoluted activity with different companies/PI's/ex-policemen -  which was undertaken so secretly that apparently anyone can find out about it with a bit of research on the www?

What was the end result they were aiming for in your opinion?

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The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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So what is this conspiracy you keep hinting at?   What was the reason for all this convoluted activity with different companies/PI's/ex-policemen -  which was undertaken so secretly that apparently anyone can find out about it with a bit of research on the www?

What was the end result they were aiming for in your opinion?


You're asking me why Kennedy manufactured a detective agency, when a plethora of them already existed, more than capable of performing certain services, including 'abduction' cases.

You tell me why Kennedy needed to do it on behalf of the mccanns..


Offline Benice


You're asking me why Kennedy manufactured a detective agency, when a plethora of them already existed, more than capable of performing certain services, including 'abduction' cases.

You tell me why Kennedy needed to do it on behalf of the mccanns..

But that is what I am asking you Stephen.   What was Kennedy really up to in your opinion?
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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But that is what I am asking you Stephen.   What was Kennedy really up to in your opinion?

Well, as his actions lack logic and coherence in setting up a private investigation  agency which wasn't required, I don't know, unless of course, he wished to 'control', who and what was investigated, on behalf of the mccanns.

Then perhaps an examination of Mitchell, who clearly 'liaised' with Edgar and Cowley would be appropriate.

Offline Benice

Well, as his actions lack logic and coherence in setting up a private investigation  agency which wasn't required, I don't know, unless of course, he wished to 'control', who and what was investigated, on behalf of the mccanns.

Then perhaps an examination of Mitchell, who clearly 'liaised' with Edgar and Cowley would be appropriate.

So you don't really know then.    Neither do I. 

IMO unless one can see some clear personal advantage to a a person's decision to take one certain path instead of another one   - then one has to assume there is nothing sinister about it.

As the McCanns apparently already had the power to control the media, government officials , agencies etc. then surely they didn't need to employ any outside help.

As you have seen all the videos, could you say what Richard Hall's conspiracy theory was - re the employment of PI's and Kennedy's involvement please?

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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So you don't really know then.    Neither do I. 

IMO unless one can see some clear personal advantage to a a person's decision to take one certain path instead of another one   - then one has to assume there is nothing sinister about it.

As the McCanns apparently already had the power to control the media, government officials , agencies etc. then surely they didn't need to employ any outside help.

As you have seen all the videos, could you say what Richard Hall's conspiracy theory was - re the employment of PI's and Kennedy's involvement please?


Actually, I haven't seen all 4 videos.

The fourth one is of interest.

As to media control, look up the actions of Carter-Ruck in this case, and the threat of libel action, which to put it mildly has put off the press running stories, but you know that.

When did you last see an interview with the mccanns when they were asked questions beyond the parameters of the Mitchell PR mchine ?

We have seen such 'events' in Portugal, where the press do ask questions avoided in the UK and the subsequent raising of the hackles of the mccanns.

Have you ever asked yourself why many people don't believe the mccanns story ?

Similarly, do you really believe all members of the UK Police force believe their story either ?