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Offline Benice

Its a predicition, Jassi.

But if he keeps on writing and publsihing at least it keeps all the conspiracy theorists and tin foil hat brigade happily and harmlessly occupied.


How true.  In the meantime having struggled through another hour or so of this boring regurgitation of the same old misinformation we've all heard before from other quarters -  I can now personally  recommend it as a remedy for insomnia.     To give one example  -  it's quite remarkable what a soporific affect  the phrase ...'money laundering'... repeated over and over and over again in the same monotone voice has as a sleep inducing aid.

It truly did send me to sleep.



The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Angelo222


How true.  In the meantime having struggled through another hour or so of this boring regurgitation of the same old misinformation we've all heard before from other quarters -  I can now personally  recommend it as a remedy for insomnia.     To give one example  -  it's quite remarkable what a soporific affect  the phrase ...'money laundering'... repeated over and over and over again in the same monotone voice has as a sleep inducing aid.

It truly did send me to sleep.

I have struggled to get through the first three parts and I must say Benice I cannot find fault with any of it.  Maybe the final episode is the controversial bit?

PS. what misinformation are you referring to??
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Offline Eleanor


The last part contains a "Suggestion"  that Gerry met with Robert Murat at a Golf Club prior to the disappearance of Madeleine.
I would like to know what anyone thinks of that.

Offline Angelo222

The last part contains a "Suggestion"  that Gerry met with Robert Murat at a Golf Club prior to the disappearance of Madeleine.
I would like to know what anyone thinks of that.

About to watch the last part now Eleanor.  I have to say though that so far I have found it to be based on the facts.  On the down side it did linger too long and put too much unnecessary emphasis on the Payne visit to 5a.  There will always be contradictions in any story.
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Offline Benice

I have struggled to get through the first three parts and I must say Benice I cannot find fault with any of it.  Maybe the final episode is the controversial bit?

PS. what misinformation are you referring to??

There are loads of examples Angelo - all of which have already been discussed on here at length in the past.   

For one example the claim that Jane Tanner identified Robert Murat is gross misinformation.    She did no such thing - and there is not a scrap of evidence apart from Amaral's claim in his book to say that she did.   

 Surely you would agree that if she had made a positive identification of Murat as the abductor, the last thing Amaral would have done would be to tell her she didn't need to make a signed statement to that effect and that she could go home.   Of course he wouldn't.    He would have ordered her back to the police station at the speed of light to get a written, signed statement from her about this FANTASTIC piece of evidence against the man he was about to make an Arguido.   Instead he did the complete opposite.

IMO he sent her home because her failure to identify Murat was of no use to him at all.   However, without a statement he could say what he liked - particularly to Murat, and just as he lied to Gerry about the 100% DNA match I believe he probably did tell Murat that JT had identified him.   And Murat probably carried on thinking that was true for a long time - until someone eventually put him right.

     
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline jassi

No - this is one by professional, proper authors.

Freely available from good bookshops, and of course free from the public library.   ?{)(**

What is a proper professional author?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline pathfinder73

About to watch the last part now Eleanor.  I have to say though that so far I have found it to be based on the facts.  On the down side it did linger too long and put too much unnecessary emphasis on the Payne visit to 5a.  There will always be contradictions in any story.

Not contradictions on whether you were inside or not and what was the purpose of the visit. Kate in a towel but DP didn't notice that LOL.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Benice

The last part contains a "Suggestion"  that Gerry met with Robert Murat at a Golf Club prior to the disappearance of Madeleine.
I would like to know what anyone thinks of that.

Another load of misinformation IMO.   Where is the evidence?  There is none.
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Well having just watched the first video again,and if the source material is correct, there are NUMEROUS contradictions between the accounts of PAYNE and the MCCANNS. Far too many changed stories.

The glaring mistake, is the omission of what STALKER says in his article, other than of course reference to the 'big secret'.

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Offline Angelo222

For one example the claim that Jane Tanner identified Robert Murat is gross misinformation.    She did no such thing - and there is not a scrap of evidence apart from Amaral's claim in his book to say that she did.   

 Surely you would agree that if she had made a positive identification of Murat as the abductor, the last thing Amaral would have done would be to tell her she didn't need to make a signed statement to that effect and that she could go home.   Of course he wouldn't.    He would have ordered her back to the police station at the speed of light to get a written, signed statement from her about this FANTASTIC piece of evidence against the man he was about to make an Arguido.   Instead he did the complete opposite.

IMO he sent her home because her failure to identify Murat was of no use to him at all.   However, without a statement he could say what he liked - particularly to Murat, and just as he lied to Gerry about the 100% DNA match I believe he probably did tell Murat that JT had identified him.   And Murat probably carried on thinking that was true for a long time - until someone eventually put him right. 

She never saw the mans face but didn't she say that she could identify the man by the way he walked?

ETA Unless I fell asleep I don't recall seeing this claim in the video?
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Offline Eleanor

Not contradictions on whether you were inside or not and what was the purpose of the visit. Kate in a towel but DP didn't notice that LOL.

At the door?  Just inside the door?  Not glaring contradictions.

As for the purpose, there could have been several. " Can you just do this, oh, and by the way."

Which one of them said Kate was wearing a towel as I can't remember.

Offline John

I managed to review the documentary whilst traveling yesterday and I suggest that anyone who is familiar with the facts in the case cut to the chase and watch part 4 first as it contains some real dynamite.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

ferryman

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She never saw the mans face but didn't she say that she could identify the man by the way he walked?

ETA Unless I fell asleep I don't recall seeing this claim in the video?

Dunno about the video.  But Amaral definitely accused Tanner of identifying Robert Murat.

From his book:

JANE TANNER FORMALLY RECOGNISES ROBERT MURAT

Before the search, we want to assure ourselves that Jane Tanner recognises him as the individual she saw on the night of the disappearance. She is sitting inside an unmarked car, whose tinted windows allow her to see out without being spotted. The vehicle is parked at the exact spot where she was on the night of May 3rd. Robert Murat, anonymous amongst plain clothes police officers, goes up the road in the same way as the alleged abductor. Jane Tanner is adamant: it certainly is Robert Murat that she saw that night. She definitely recognises his way of walking. But does he resemble the description she painted previously?


(Chapter 7)
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Offline Mr Gray

I watched a few minutes where he states the dogs alerted to cadaver odour...this is not true... Grime has not confirmed the alerts were to cadaver odour
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Offline Angelo222

Sorry Benice, it is in the last episode at time stamp 50.26

"As Robert Murat walked past the unmarked police van Jane Tanner became adamant to the police that he was the very man she had seen walking near the McCanns apartment ten days ago"

NB He avoided claiming that he was carrying a child.

I have removed my last post as I was in error. 
« Last Edit: August 12, 2014, 04:24:09 PM by Angelo222 »
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