New documentary:"BURIED BY MAINSTREAM MEDIA -The True Story of Madeleine McCann.

[stephen25000]

I don't think "Who" created a Company is all that important.  I have always understood that Edgar and Cowley were employed and supported by Brian Kennedy on behalf of The McCanns.

Someone tried to turn Aphaig into some sort of mystery.  Bennett, I do believe.  But why should it matter what Edgar and Cowley called themselves?

I hope they do run some sort of Agency now that they don't appear to be searching for Madeleine.  Although we can't be sure that they aren't doing that.  It would hardly be Interfering with the Course of Justice since this remains a Portuguese Investigation.

Well nothing has come up on Company Check or the equivalents. Theyappear to have disappeared into oblivion, unless working for someone else.

The impression given at the time to the media was of independent organizations,not ones specifically 'set-up' to deal with a potential abduction

IMO, the incompetence was highlighted by one section involving the 'Beckham' lookalike, where the port authority in Barcelona and nearby businesses recorded no visits by anyone questioning about the private yacht and the woman requesting where her new child was. Now that story became worldwide and revealed as we know NOTHING.

[Brietta]

Well nothing has come up on Company Check or the equivalents. Theyappear to have disappeared into oblivion, unless working for someone else.

The impression given at the time to the media was of independent organizations,not ones specifically 'set-up' to deal with a potential abduction

IMO, the incompetence was highlighted by one section involving the 'Beckham' lookalike, where the port authority in Barcelona and nearby businesses recorded no visits by anyone questioning about the private yacht and the woman requesting where her new child was. Now that story became worldwide and revealed as we know NOTHING.

Actually I think you are missing the real scandal here: and that is at the time no law enforcement agency in the world was actively looking for Madeleine McCann.

[stephen25000]

Actually I think you are missing the real scandal here: and that is at the time no law enforcement agency in the world was actively looking for Madeleine McCann.

Nope.

There were PJ officers still on the case, and let's not forget the worldwide headlines and reward..............

...........and guess what, NOTHING HAS RESULTED FROM THAT.

[Eleanor]

Well nothing has come up on Company Check or the equivalents. Theyappear to have disappeared into oblivion, unless working for someone else.

The impression given at the time to the media was of independent organizations,not ones specifically 'set-up' to deal with a potential abduction

IMO, the incompetence was highlighted by one section involving the 'Beckham' lookalike, where the port authority in Barcelona and nearby businesses recorded no visits by anyone questioning about the private yacht and the woman requesting where her new child was. Now that story became worldwide and revealed as we know NOTHING.

I think one of them said that they would find what they would find, no matter what.  And as things should be.  If they found anything pointing to The McCanns then I trust that this would have been passed on to Scotland Yard when they took over.
So in that sense they were independent.

Not sure about incompetence.  The Victoria Beckham business can't have been the only lead they were following.  And I think that the whole idea was to get it out there, which they did. Although the choice wouldn't have been theirs alone.

But I can see where the Company Check could come in handy.

[stephen25000]

I think one of them said that they would find what they would find, no matter what.  And as things should be.  If they found anything pointing to The McCanns then I trust that this would have been passed on to Scotland Yard when they took over.
So in that sense they were independent.

Not sure about incompetence.  The Victoria Beckham business can't have been the only lead they were following.  And I think that the whole idea was to get it out there, which they did. Although the choice wouldn't have been theirs alone.

But I can see where the Company Check could come in handy.

Well as they were previously in the police service, one of the cornerstones of good investigative work is to follow up the lead(s). They didn't.

Likewise if they were being paid for by the fund, how could they have been independent ?

[Brietta]

Nope.

There were PJ officers still on the case, and let's not forget the worldwide headlines and reward..............

...........and guess what, NOTHING HAS RESULTED FROM THAT.

The main man in Portugal was Ricardo Paiva who believes Madeleine is dead: under cross examination he revealed that the public had not been put off because of the assertions in Dr Amaral's book because they were indeed still sending information to the PJ as were official law enforcement bodies; when the files were looked at they were found to have been marked as not relevant to the inquiry; despite containing images of children who looked like Madeleine but which had not been shown to her parents.

When the fund et al were scrabbling around desperately trying to search for Madeleine ~ it was because there was no official search taking place.

[stephen25000]

The main man in Portugal was Ricardo Paiva who believes Madeleine is dead: under cross examination he revealed that the public had not been put off because of the assertions in Dr Amaral's book because they were indeed still sending information to the PJ as were official law enforcement bodies; when the files were looked at they were found to have been marked as not relevant to the inquiry; despite containing images of children who looked like Madeleine but which had not been shown to her parents.

When the fund et al were scrabbling around desperately trying to search for Madeleine ~ it was because there was no official search taking place.

You are assuming Madeleine could be found.

Now what makes you think she would be, after well over 7 years of unparalleled worldwide publicity ?

[Eleanor]

Well as they were previously in the police service, one of the cornerstones of good investigative work is to follow up the lead(s). They didn't.

Likewise if they were being paid for by the fund, how could they have been independent ?

We don't actually know who was paying them.  But for honest men, being honest would have been part of the deal.  Or it would have been for me.

[stephen25000]

We don't actually know who was paying them.  But for honest men, being honest would have been part of the deal.  Or it would have been for me.

Agreed.

What is the extent of Brian Kennedy's involvement in this case ?

As he was tagged in to these companies as well, it seems.

[Eleanor]

Agreed.

What is the extent of Brian Kennedy's involvement in this case ?

As he was tagged in to these companies as well, it seems.

Brian Kennedy felt great sympathy for The McCanns.  He is a Jehova's Witness who felt motivated to spend some of his good fortune helping and defending The McCanns.

Lots on Google

[Brietta]

You are assuming Madeleine could be found.

Now what makes you think she would be, after well over 7 years of unparalleled worldwide publicity ?

The best chance of finding Madeleine was in the hours and days after she was taken; disastrously that opportunity was squandered and Madeleine was betrayed by that.

Until there is some indication of what happened to her I shall continue to hope for the best and that is that she is alive and well; there are many areas in the world where the writ of media attention and publicity does not run; writing off the search for Madeleine McCann can only bring comfort to those who would like nothing better than to be left in peace while the hounding of her parents continues unabated.

To that end I am sure they must be ecstatic that there are still those around who 'buy into' ill thought out publications such as that under discussion at the moment.

[stephen25000]

The best chance of finding Madeleine was in the hours and days after she was taken; disastrously that opportunity was squandered and Madeleine was betrayed by that.

Until there is some indication of what happened to her I shall continue to hope for the best and that is that she is alive and well; there are many areas in the world where the writ of media attention and publicity does not run; writing off the search for Madeleine McCann can only bring comfort to those who would like nothing better than to be left in peace while the hounding of her parents continues unabated.

To that end I am sure they must be ecstatic that there are still those around who 'buy into' ill thought out publications such as that under discussion at the moment.

Utter rubbish.

Within the parameters of the conditions and the countries involved, Madeleine was searched for by many people.

It would be extremely helpful if that VERY OLD MYTH was placed where it belongs.

'Ill thought out publications'.

Has that come from the mccann camp ?

[John]

Nope.

There were PJ officers still on the case, and let's not forget the worldwide headlines and reward..............

...........and guess what, NOTHING HAS RESULTED FROM THAT.

Madeleine, like Joana, never left Portugal. 

[Benice]

Apparently Kate should have done what the sceptics think she should have done  -  i.e.  ignored her lawyer's advice and done everything in her power to assist the police to pin the crime on herself.     I ask you -  what innocent person would do that -  and why do people think they know better than her lawyer - who was obviously giving advice aimed solely at preventing the PJ from framing his client? 

He was exercising his legal expertise - which Kate did not have   - and as his client she would have been mad to think she knew better  and to ignore his advice. 

What sane person willingly helps the police to pin a crime on themselves which they didn't commit?

The mind boggles at the bizarre logic of some people.   

[stephen25000]

Madeleine, like Joana, never left Portugal.

That has been my opinion from very early on as well.