New documentary:"BURIED BY MAINSTREAM MEDIA -The True Story of Madeleine McCann.

[Benice]

This for me was the moment the documentary lost all credibility and entered fantasyland.  Had Gerry and Murat actually met at the Golf Club there would have been witnesses to that meeting.  The very last place anyone contemplating mischief would want to be seen imo.

A coincidence too far I fear.

Totally agree.   As if anyone would arrange a secret meeting  in such a public place.   Richard Hall obviously found no witnesses at the Golf Club to back up his claim or he would have mentioned them.    Although in his case he probably believes such witnesses have since been abducted by aliens - or been 'vanished' by MI6.

[Alice Purjorick]

An Arthur John Cowley was a director of a company named Alphaig Limited.
ALPHAIG LIMITED
TREETOPS
PANT-Y-GOF
HALKYN
FLINTSHIRE
UK
CH8 8DH
Company No. 06929397
The company was incorporated on June 10th 2009 and was dissolved on 25th October 2011. Easy enough to check it.
Were it "Alpha Investigations Group" it could trade as such provided it made clear on its letter headings it was in fact Alphaig Limited registered in England and Wales under Reg No whatever at Registered Address whatever.
Two men would have trouble working under the same company name as sole traders. An alternative would be an Unincorporated Association but this is not a suitable structure for profit making organisations, the bank would require a written constitution before opening a bank account and banks might cut up rough if someone tried to do it for a profit making organisation. The main disadvantage of UA's is that they are not legal persons so the members are jointly and severally liable at law.
Ponder on that my dears.

[pegasus]

Does anyone disagree with the film's claim that no real company called "Alpha Investigations" existed?

[Cudge]

Your post that has been quoted is not far up the page if you are having problems remembering but I think you alluding that it was unlikely that the two PI's could operate a partnership for profit as well as a Limited company with the same name as it was extremely difficult I was merely pointing out it is not.

[pegasus]

The film claims that the company "alpha investigations" never existed.
The film claims that the company "alphaig" was created only after "alpha investigations" press stuff appeared.
The film claims that edgar was never an official of the company "alphaig" nor of the apparantly non-existent company "alpha investigations".
I am happy to be proven wrong but as far as I can see do not these claims appear to be correct?

[pegasus]

Perhaps the most astonishing claim of these four films is that hundreds of recorded calls to a hotline, which was set up by the fund, and advertised on the fund website, were never even listened to, despite repeated attempts by the honest US call handling company to tell them to listen. Is there anyone here who disputes that astonishing claim?

[Bert Singe]

Hello again.

Having now watched all 4 parts I am of the opinion that there are enough strange happenings to set the alarm bells ringing. I also don't think Hall has gone over the top with any conspiracy theory. He has just posed questions for the viewer to ponder. He has spotted smoke and subsequently searched for the fire. If there is no fire to accompany the smoke then how did Hall manage to find over 4 hours of material? Boring as it may be to some that is still a hell of a lot.

I have no idea what happened that night but there is something about the case as a whole that is odd and because of this I am suspicious of the parents. Why should I be suspicious? There is no clear evidence to convict the parents of anything and yet the suspicion remains. Why?

For me, Hall brings to the viewer's attention the fact that this case has had too much mystery from the very beginning. I dearly hope the parents have no involvement but the truth is I am left in doubt. People who have until now believed in the parents may watch this and then wonder.

Off topic but if permissible I would like to ask the following question? If you believe the parents have no involvement then have you always believed this from the very first day?

[Cudge]

The film claims that the company "alpha investigations" never existed.
The film claims that the company "alphaig" was created only after "alpha investigations" press stuff appeared.
The film claims that edgar was never an official of the company "alphaig" nor of the apparantly non-existent company "alpha investigations".
I am happy to be proven wrong but as far as I can see do not these claims appear to be correct?

I think the earlier suggestion was that Alpha Investigations may have existed but not as a  limited company i.e a partnership hence no Alpha Investigations Limited  is registered at companies house. A limited company was then subsequently incorporated Alphaig Limited which was subsequently dissolved.

So the claim that there was no Alpha Investigations Limited is correct but that does not mean there was not a partnership called Alpha Investigations that was originally engaged by The Mccanns

[pegasus]

I think the earlier suggestion was that Alpha Investigations may have existed but not as a  limited company i.e a partnership hence no Alpha Investigations Limited  is registered at companies house. A limited company was then subsequently incorporated Alphaig Limited which was subsequently dissolved.

So the claim that there was no Alpha Investigations Limited is correct but that does not mean there was not a partnership called Alpha Investigations that was originally engaged by The Mccanns

Well yes a "trading as" name can be invented by any individual(s) at anytime and then technically it exists.
It's interesting that, according to these films, an "alphaig" domain name was purchased some considerable time before, indicating some preparatory planning?
I still think the films are correct that there was some deliberate misleading of the UK public here by whichever media manipulation expert was feeding the UK press about "alpha investigations", which the films claim did not actually exist in any real verifiable form at all at the time.

[Brietta]

Hello again.

Having now watched all 4 parts I am of the opinion that there are enough strange happenings to set the alarm bells ringing. I also don't think Hall has gone over the top with any conspiracy theory. He has just posed questions for the viewer to ponder. He has spotted smoke and subsequently searched for the fire. If there is no fire to accompany the smoke then how did Hall manage to find over 4 hours of material? Boring as it may be to some that is still a hell of a lot.

I have no idea what happened that night but there is something about the case as a whole that is odd and because of this I am suspicious of the parents. Why should I be suspicious? There is no clear evidence to convict the parents of anything and yet the suspicion remains. Why?

For me, Hall brings to the viewer's attention the fact that this case has had too much mystery from the very beginning. I dearly hope the parents have no involvement but the truth is I am left in doubt. People who have until now believed in the parents may watch this and then wonder.

Off topic but if permissible I would like to ask the following question? If you believe the parents have no involvement then have you always believed this from the very first day?

I think it possible that repetition of forum myths such as repeated in these videos might have something to do with it; combined with the fact there are those who for some reason best known to themselves eagerly overturn "innocent until proven guilty" on its head.

[pegasus]

I think it possible that repetition of forum myths such as repeated in these videos might have something to do with it; combined with the fact there are those who for some reason best known to themselves eagerly overturn "innocent until proven guilty" on its head.

But the fund's non-listening-to of hundreds of hotline calls is not a forum myth - it is stated as a fact by the owner of the honest call-handling company.

[Cudge]

Well yes a "trading as" name can be invented by any individual(s) at anytime and then technically it exists.
It's interesting that, according to these films, an "alphaig" domain name was purchased some considerable time before, indicating some preparatory planning?
I still think the films are correct that there was some deliberate misleading of the UK public here by whichever media manipulation expert was feeding the UK press about "alpha investigations", which the films claim did not actually exist in any real verifiable form at all at the time.

As there is no public register of sole trader/partnerships then they would not exist in any real verifiable form to the general public. A lot of limited companies do start off as sole trader/partnerships with the decision to incorporate usually taking place as the business starts to grow

[pegasus]

As there is no public register of sole trader/partnerships then they would not exist in any real verifiable form to the general public. A lot of limited companies do start off as sole trader/partnerships with the decision to incorporate usually taking place as the business starts to grow

Not the approach a multi-millionaire usually takes though is it?

[pegasus]

For example one article of many, this from 26 May 2009
http://www.thisischeshire.co.uk/news/4396781.Former_town_detective_heading_up_Madeleine_hunt/
"The duo, who now run the Alpha Investigations Group"
The films raise the question - did Alpha Investigations Group run by Mr E and Mr C even actually officially exist on that date, or were the UK public being mislead?

[Bert Singe]

I think it possible that repetition of forum myths such as repeated in these videos might have something to do with it; combined with the fact there are those who for some reason best known to themselves eagerly overturn "innocent until proven guilty" on its head.

The videos do not consist of 4 hours worth of forum myth.