Was the slamming door connected to an escape via bedroom patio door?

[Brietta]

I've just been reading a study by a former FBI agent who is convinced that Madeleine made her own way out of the apartment and was abducted from the street.

Madeleine wandered out of the apartment (amazingly, considering she was tucked up in bed & there was no way she could have got out on her own) & it just so happens that a child fancier was passing through & he picked her up & was laughing all the way back to his paedo lair.

I wonder who opened the window & shutters then?

I said that was the former agent's assessment ... I did not say I agreed with it.

[Wonderfulspam]

I said that was the former agent's assessment ... I did not say I agreed with it.

Does he mention who opened the window/shutters in his study?

I'll rephrase that because it sounds like someone opened the window in his study/drawing room.

I mean, in his study of the disappearence of Madeleine McCann, in which he is convinced she walked out & was lifted, who opened the window/shutters of apartment G5A?

[sadie]

Does he mention who opened the window/shutters in his study?

Where have you got windows and shutters in a study, being opened by a stranger from Spammy?

Have I missed something?



ETA:  THanks Spammy.  Your edit above explains it 

[Lace]

I really don't know why Kate McCann would lie about the door slamming.

All she had to say if she just wanted to point to the fact that the window was open was 'I felt a draught and realised the window was open'.

There is no need at all to say the door slammed and the curtains whooshed if they didn't.

[sadie]

I really don't know why Kate McCann would lie about the door slamming.

All she had to say if she just wanted to point to the fact that the window was open was 'I felt a draught and realised the window was open'.

There is no need at all to say the door slammed and the curtains whooshed if they didn't.

Exactly

How good to see you back, Lace 

[Wonderfulspam]

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2678.0

[sadie]

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2678.0

Are you expecting us to read thru 30 pages?

Some more detailed guidance, of where to find it, needed spammy

And exactly what are we supposed to be reading



Thanks in anticipation

[Wonderfulspam]

Easy enough to criticise with benefit of hindsight (and I do it a lot) for apparently not forensically sweeping absolutely everywhere; but it really was very remiss if the parents' bedroom was missed, and I am amazed at how 'invisible' the door has been without so much as a mention - such as 'looked at door, eliminated because ...'.

I've just been reading a study by a former FBI agent who is convinced that Madeleine made her own way out of the apartment and was abducted from the street.
There is no evidence to support anything at all I agree that the most feasible thing to have happened is the exit via the front door the timing of which would still tie in with the Smith sighting.

With reference to the FBI agent's study - he says there was CCTV coverage of the roadway including apartment 5 from a camera located in the supermarket - but it was not recording.

Brietta, I'm keen to know more about this former FBI agent & his study into the disappearence of Madeleine.

Where can I find it?

[Brietta]

Brietta, I'm keen to know more about this former FBI agent & his study into the disappearence of Madeleine.

Where can I find it?

You will get the usual virus warning WS, I've not had a problem with it but be better to check it out anyway.

http://www.williams-thomas.co.uk/sites/default/files/Review%20of%20Madeleiene%20McCann%20Investigation.pdf

[Wonderfulspam]

You will get the usual virus warning WS, I've not had a problem with it but be better to check it out anyway.

http://www.williams-thomas.co.uk/sites/default/files/Review%20of%20Madeleiene%20McCann%20Investigation.pdf

LOL, he doesn't even account for the open window or shutters when saying 'I would argue that Madeleine walked out of apartment 5a through an insecure rear patio door looking for her parents –she was then abducted'

She must have shut the curtains, patio door, child gate & gate at the bottom of the stairs on her way out.

Sounds feasible don't it!

I reckon Peggy's right about that burglar, opening the window & running away empty handed.

[Brietta]

LOL, he doesn't even account for the open window or shutters when saying 'I would argue that Madeleine walked out of apartment 5a through an insecure rear patio door looking for her parents –she was then abducted'

She must have shut the curtains, patio door, child gate & gate at the bottom of the stairs on her way out.

Sounds feasible don't it!

I reckon Peggy's right about that burglar, opening the window & running away empty handed.

I don't agree with what he has said in quite a few instances and you have outlined exactly why Madeleine's parents were convinced she had not left the apartment of her own volition.
He did make some pertinent observations ... and can you imagine the issues that would have been resolved had the supermarket CCTV been recording.

[Carana]

Yes, but I think that Lace's point is that there was no need to invent a door slamming or curtains whooshing. Neither did she have to say that she probably wouldn't have gone in to visually check if the door hadn't slammed. It would have been easier to say the opposite: i.e., that she went in to do a visual check and then noticed that the window was open.

[Wonderfulspam]

Ha Ha.

Actually Kate McCann didn't have to say the window was open,  as in her statement the following day she told the police the patio doors were open.

Yes of course, the abductor had entered & left via the patio door, closing everything behind him both times, curtains, door, child gate, gate.

[xtina]

Yes, but I think that Lace's point is that there was no need to invent a door slamming or curtains whooshing. Neither did she have to say that she probably wouldn't have gone in to visually check if the door hadn't slammed. It would have been easier to say the opposite: i.e., that she went in to do a visual check and then noticed that the window was open.

well its obvious ...it was said  probably ...to tie in with all the different accounts ...by the time we got it in detail

lets face it if you are checking sleeping children .....you look at them end of ...not because some thing prompts you to look

[pathfinder73]

The dogs indicate death behind the sofa and the body moved and hidden in the wardrobe. Then exit to the balcony where Eddie was sniffing. He wasn't interested in the patio door but outside the parent's bedroom so that is the most probable exit. Jez turning up unexpectedly could connect with a move to the flower bed. This is what the dogs showed us not slamming doors. Matt would have noticed a draft had that window been open and no invisible abductor passed through it.