Jeremy Bamber - Review of Whole Life Tariff - European Court

[abs]

I think this is much more likely to be successful than the Judicial Review. However, a release like this will be no good for him. He will still be penniless because as a convicted murderer he still cannot claim his parents' inheritance or earnings from the caravan site. If he isn't going to be minted when he walks out of jail I doubt if he'll be interested.

It would be difficult in any case, money or no money. His life is pretty much down the drain. After so many years in prison, he has no real idea what life is like now, even though he in one of the lucky few who has contact with the outside world.
He has no family - just people he doesn´t REALLY know. Seriously, I HOPE he is in fact guilty, because if he is not, this is almost too tragic to even think about.

[starryian]

I think this is much more likely to be successful than the Judicial Review. However, a release like this will be no good for him. He will still be penniless because as a convicted murderer he still cannot claim his parents' inheritance or earnings from the caravan site. If he isn't going to be minted when he walks out of jail I doubt if he'll be interested.

It would be difficult in any case, money or no money. His life is pretty much down the drain. After so many years in prison, he has no real idea what life is like now, even though he in one of the lucky few who has contact with the outside world.
He has no family - just people he doesn´t REALLY know. Seriously, I HOPE he is in fact guilty, because if he is not, this is almost too tragic to even think about.

Abs I am pretty sure that this will not be successful. The ECHR has lost a lot of credibility over some of their strange judicial decisions in recent years and I cannot forsee them granting this. The British government's wish is that this callous mass-murdering ingrate serve a whole life tariff as dictated by A BRITISH court system - not theirs. They will be well-aware of this. Even if by some miracle they grant it, it doesn't necessarily mean the British goverment will follow that recommendation.

[John]

guys...just back.

I have merged the two topics started by abs and David in connection with the referral of the Bamber case to the Grand Chamber of the European Court.

Any problems with today's post let me know. 

[Andrea]

We need to be on our guard, someone has taken to posting a picture of mats son on the other forum.

We have to make sure it doesnt happen on here, regardless of what people think of mat, its low to post pictures of his baby son. Very low.

[John]

We need to be on our guard, someone has taken to posting a picture of mats son on the other forum.

We have to make sure it doesnt happen on here, regardless of what people think of mat, its low to post pictures of his baby son. Very low.

Why would they do that Andrea?  Sorry not been in all day so a bit behind.

I must admit I posted a picture of Tracy and her bairn but she had posted it on facebook anyway.  I didn't see a problem at the time but she went ape...not that she finds that hard.

[ActualMat]

Yeah, please guys if they post the picture here.. delete it. I'd really appreciate it.

[John]

Yeah, please guys if they post the picture here.. delete it. I'd really appreciate it.

Have you upset someone Mat?  I must admit I have always found you quite reasonable to discuss things with.

[Andrea]

dont worry, mat. It will be deleted.

[sika]

Mat, do you work for the CCRC? Or should I not ask that?

[ActualMat]

Yeah, please guys if they post the picture here.. delete it. I'd really appreciate it.

Have you upset someone Mat?  I must admit I have always found you quite reasonable to discuss things with.

I've been getting into it with Steph on the blue forum today and last night.
and Grahame has called me Mat the tw.. and a load of other insults tonight. But my heart says.. neither of them would do this.

Mat, do you work for the CCRC? Or should I not ask that?

No, I don't. You can ask anything it isn't all spies and 007. I won't kill you. :P

[Aunt Agatha]

I am appalled at the lengths some people will go to.

The name Hunt came up in the Foyer on the other side....and disappeared just as quick.  It was so quick I never got to read the intro......

[puglove]

Yeah, please guys if they post the picture here.. delete it. I'd really appreciate it.

Who would do such a thing? What has happened to that forum?

[Andrea]

Its low, AA. Peoples children should never be brought into disagreements.

[ActualMat]

They can call me a woman etc.. and it doesn't even bother me. But at the moment I admit, I feel defeated.

[John]

I think this is much more likely to be successful than the Judicial Review. However, a release like this will be no good for him. He will still be penniless because as a convicted murderer he still cannot claim his parents' inheritance or earnings from the caravan site. If he isn't going to be minted when he walks out of jail I doubt if he'll be interested.

It would be difficult in any case, money or no money. His life is pretty much down the drain. After so many years in prison, he has no real idea what life is like now, even though he in one of the lucky few who has contact with the outside world.
He has no family - just people he doesn´t REALLY know. Seriously, I HOPE he is in fact guilty, because if he is not, this is almost too tragic to even think about.

Abs I am pretty sure that this will not be successful. The ECHR has lost a lot of credibility over some of their strange judicial decisions in recent years and I cannot forsee them granting this. The British government's wish is that this callous mass-murdering ingrate serve a whole life tariff as dictated by A BRITISH court system - not theirs. They will be well-aware of this. Even if by some miracle they grant it, it doesn't necessarily mean the British goverment will follow that recommendation.

Forgive me if I have got this wrong but I understand the Grand Chamber appeal relates to his full life tariff.  Does this mean that he could be released say after 30 or more years if he wins this appeal?

Surely an immediate release wouldn't be on the cards even though he has done 25 years?