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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Three Door Moves
« Reply #30 on: October 14, 2014, 07:22:31 AM »
And someone could have been hiding behind that door.

Hid there before Gerry's check, somehow he knew he was coming.
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Offline pegasus

Re: Three Door Moves
« Reply #31 on: October 14, 2014, 09:59:43 PM »
Hmm so we have a room with a person in and the door is almost closed.
Then later the person is not in the room, and, astoundingly, there is the added mystery that the door has been opened.
Impossible to solve, I give up.

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Three Door Moves
« Reply #32 on: October 14, 2014, 10:32:30 PM »
Hmm so we have a room with a person in and the door is almost closed.
Then later the person is not in the room, and, astoundingly, there is the added mystery that the door has been opened.
Impossible to solve, I give up.

It is a puzzle.  I am sure someone will be along in a minute to solve it. 

Offline pegasus

Re: Three Door Moves
« Reply #33 on: October 14, 2014, 10:53:42 PM »
It is a puzzle.  I am sure someone will be along in a minute to solve it.
Mr Amaral's theory, that the person simply walked out of the room, is easily disproven by the fact that the door was only slightly ajar, and no person can fit through the small gap of a slightly ajar door.

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Three Door Moves
« Reply #34 on: October 14, 2014, 11:08:16 PM »
Mr Amaral's theory, that the person simply walked out of the room, is easily disproven by the fact that the door was only slightly ajar, and no person can fit through the small gap of a slightly ajar door.

His theory that the front door could not have been used also does not stand much scrutiny. 

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Re: Three Door Moves
« Reply #35 on: October 14, 2014, 11:15:42 PM »
Mr Amaral's theory, that the person simply walked out of the room, is easily disproven by the fact that the door was only slightly ajar, and no person can fit through the small gap of a slightly ajar door.
Eh?  Doors can be moved you know, that's one of their unique features!

Offline Brietta

Re: Three Door Moves
« Reply #36 on: October 14, 2014, 11:17:35 PM »
His theory that the front door could not have been used also does not stand much scrutiny.

I don't think that Dr Amaral produced any theory which was viable in Madeleine's case.

Not necessarily all his fault as the investigation into a missing child was beyond his areas of expertise and being made an arguido himself on the 4th of May must have been distracting to say the least.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Three Door Moves
« Reply #37 on: October 14, 2014, 11:23:14 PM »
Mr Amaral's theory, that the person simply walked out of the room, is easily disproven by the fact that the door was only slightly ajar, and no person can fit through the small gap of a slightly ajar door.

With reference to Alfred's post
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=5409.msg192813#msg192813

I missed what you said, pegasus, because of course doors swing on hinges.  Were you having a laugh?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline pegasus

Re: Three Door Moves
« Reply #38 on: October 14, 2014, 11:28:37 PM »
Eh?  Doors can be moved you know, that's one of their unique features!
So a child could have got up, moved the door, and walked out of the bedroom.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Three Door Moves
« Reply #39 on: October 14, 2014, 11:31:15 PM »
So a child could have got up, moved the door, and walked out of the bedroom.
Of course! Who is saying otherwise? 

Offline pegasus

Re: Three Door Moves
« Reply #40 on: October 14, 2014, 11:48:38 PM »
I don't think that Dr Amaral produced any theory which was viable in Madeleine's case.

Not necessarily all his fault as the investigation into a missing child was beyond his areas of expertise and being made an arguido himself on the 4th of May must have been distracting to say the least.
He shows a child walking out of the bedroom. Whatever one thinks of the many other bits of his theory, that tiny bit is physically possible and quite likely. And it would explain the door being moved.  Do you think an intruder moved the door? 

Offline Eleanor

Re: Three Door Moves
« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2014, 11:52:44 PM »
He shows a child walking out of the bedroom. Whatever one thinks of the many other bits of his theory, that tiny bit is physically possible and quite likely. And it would explain the door being moved.  Do you think an intruder moved the door?

Are you saying that Madeleine got out of bed and moved the door twice?

Offline pegasus

Re: Three Door Moves
« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2014, 11:57:19 PM »
It wasn't three times, it was twice. 

First time when Gerry checked at nine-ish.  He pulled it to.

Second time when Matt checked.  He didn't alter the position of the door.

So when Kate checked it was as Matt had left it.

This could be explained by the abductor hiding in the apartment when Gerry checked and pulled the door to, and the abductor then opening it again when he left, and before Matt checked.
I agree that the door position observed by MO is likely to be identical to the door position observed by KM.
 

Offline Brietta

Re: Three Door Moves
« Reply #43 on: October 15, 2014, 12:02:47 AM »
He shows a child walking out of the bedroom. Whatever one thinks of the many other bits of his theory, that tiny bit is physically possible and quite likely. And it would explain the door being moved.  Do you think an intruder moved the door?

I don’t have a firm opinion on the moving door. 

It is possible that Madeleine could have gone to the toilet then back into bed; it is possible that an intruder opened it. 

I have no doubt that an intruder opened the window for some reason, possibly to enter; but I think point of entry was the wooden front door. 
Until recently I thought that was also the point of exit … but now think it possible that it could have been the bedroom patio door.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline pegasus

Re: Three Door Moves
« Reply #44 on: October 15, 2014, 02:24:56 AM »
I don’t have a firm opinion on the moving door. 

It is possible that Madeleine could have gone to the toilet then back into bed; it is possible that an intruder opened it. 

I have no doubt that an intruder opened the window for some reason, possibly to enter; but I think point of entry was the wooden front door. 
Until recently I thought that was also the point of exit … but now think it possible that it could have been the bedroom patio door.
It is possible that the child got up between 9.10 and 9.30 and went into the other bedroom and slept there.
That would explain the child bedroom door moving from almost shut at 9.10 to wider open at 9.30.
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