Paedophile Roderick McDonald aka Roderick William Robinson arrested in Malta.

[Mr Moderator]

We have seen it time and again in GB and in Ireland; it seems that vulnerable children who have been victims were seldom believed in the past as in the main the perpetrators were persons in authority.

In some case yes but I believe previous generations were more concerned with housing and feeding their family than they were with child abuse.  People have the luxury of being able to do something about abuse these days.

We have all heard the jokes about the catholic priest and the alter boys.  In times gone by these priests had a lot more power than they have today, they could get away with anything basically. The 1970 movie starring Robert Mitchum and John Mills called Ryan's Daughter exposes this phenomena extremely well.

[Wonderfulspam]

That's the thing with paedophiles; I believe, they tend to be secretive except among themselves and play away quietly in the background and are truly delighted by people who deny their existence.
It is undeniable that when Madeleine went missing there were an extraordinary number of convicted British paedophiles in the immediate environs of PDL.  I dare say they enjoy sunning themselves as much as the next person.

I don't think there were any Brit exports cited here, this one seems to have been made up entirely of the home grown variety.


Carlos Cruz sentenced to seven years for paedophile offences

Portuguese TV presenter among six convicted over child prostitution at Casa Pia state-run orphanages

One of Portugal's most famous television presenters and a former ambassador were among six men found guilty yesterday of involvement with a paedophile prostitution ring that exploited children from state-run orphanages.

The guilty verdicts handed down to TV presenter Carlos Cruz and the five others exposed the truth of more than three decades of rumours about systematic abuse of young boys at the 230-year-old Casa Pia network of orphanages.

It was only when Joel, a former orphanage boy, came forward in 2002 and accused some of the country's best-known names of being involved that Portugal woke up to full horror of the scandal.

Members of Portugal's media, civil service and professional elite were alleged to be regular abusers of the boys, some younger than 14. Even well-known politicians were involved, it was initially rumoured. A flood of accusations from boys who had passed through the Casa Pia system followed. Some 32 boys alleged at least 800 crimes.

The case pitted the orphanage boys against a group of well-educated, influential people – including a former ambassador to Unesco, a lawyer, a doctor and Cruz. Yesterday, eight years after they dared to speak out, the boys finally won their case.

The four men and two former orphanage employees received sentences of between just under six years and 18 years. Carlos Silvino, a 53-year-old Casa Pia worker who confessed to 600 crimes and gave evidence against other defendants was sentenced to 18 years.

"The court recognised that we were telling the truth," said Bernardo Teixeira, one of the victims. "It's a happy ending for us. The paedophiles are going to jail."

The court ruling was hailed as a victory by those fighting for children's rights in Portugal. "The stories that I heard were the most terrible of my life," said Catalina Pestana, who was put in charge of the Casa Pia orphanages after the crimes were first reported in 2002.

"I think Portugal, the country, all of us, won a lot from this process. Now, when a child accuses an adult, nobody will look with the same lack of attention that they did for many years."

The court case lasted six years, bringing additional outrage about the slow way in which Portugal's legal system worked. The case was already in court when three-year-old Madeleine McCann disappeared while on holiday with her family in the Algarve in 2007. Portuguese police were, at the time, defensive about claims, particularly those made in the British press, that they had a history of mishandling cases involving children.

Buried in the case paperwork are allegations that Casa Pia was known to paedophiles internationally and that some flew in to abuse children from the orphanage, according to at least one source familiar with the case.

Portuguese media provided live running coverage of the reading of the sentence. The judges said they were giving only an abbreviated version of events, with a much fuller judgment due to be made public next week. The senior member of the three-judge panel, Ana Peres, began by warning those present that the abuse they described would be graphic and shocking. "Some of the accounts could be considered pornographic," she said.

Cruz, 68, who was once voted Portugal's most popular man, had paid for sex with a 14-year-old, the judges declared. He also abused at least one other boy. The father of two was known as "Mr Television" after several decades as a national star. He was sentenced to seven years in jail.

A doctor, Ferreira Diniz, was also sentenced to seven years and a former ambassador, Jorge Ritto, 74, to six years, and the former Casa Pia ombudsman, Manuel Abrantes, to five. They were found guilty of abusing several young boys.

The court found that boys had been regularly taken to a house in the eastern town of Elvas during the 1990s to meet the paedophile clients. Abuse had also taken place in Lisbon.

Some of the victims who gave evidence were present to hear the verdicts. Psychiatrists said several of the victims had tried to kill themselves after denouncing the abuse to the police. One threw himself from a second-floor window.

Lawyers said their clients would almost certainly appeal. "It seems inevitable that we will have to appeal," said Cruz's lawyer, Antonio Serra Lopes, before the sentence was read out. "This is the first round."

• This article was amended on 7 September 2010. The original headline said Carlos Cruz jailed for seven years. This has been corrected.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/sep/03/portugal-paedophile-ring

I don't deny paedos exist.

I'm just not swept away by the mass hysteria.

And  I don't buy the whole 'paedos exist therefore Maddie was abducted.... by a paedo', unlike yourself & the rest of the numpties who believe Gerry's imaginings.

You're never more than 10 feet from a serial rogue intruder who's just waiting to snatch your kids.

Lurking on every street corner, aren't they.

[Alice Purjorick]

In some case yes but I believe previous generations were more concerned with housing and feeding their family than they were with child abuse.  People have the luxury of being able to do something about abuse these days.

We have all heard the jokes about the catholic priest and the alter boys. In times gone by these priests had a lot more power than they have today, they could get away with anything basically. The 1970 movie starring Robert Mitchum and John Mills called Ryan's Daughter exposes this phenomena extremely well.

And do not forget or ignore that in Ireland there were more than a few cases of nuns sexually assaulting young boys which were taken up by the barrister who had led the charge against the priesthood.
A large number of the cases exposed in recent years have been systematic and institutional rather than random on spec. In either case it is a crime, however blurring the edges may lead to false assumptions being made.

[Wonderfulspam]

“We walked back up towards our apartment, a group had gathered on the corner. The McCanns were in bits, he was crying on the shoulder of a friend. She was screaming: ‘The f*****g b......s have taken her’

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/400796/Mystery-couple-seen-going-into-McCanns-flat-on-night-before-sobbing-Madeleine-disappeared



He said something along the lines of there being Paedophile gangs in Portugal and that they had abducted Madeleine.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GRAHAM-MCKENZIE.htm

'They've taken her'!

It weren't us guv, It was paedos wot dunnit!

[Brietta]

I don't deny paedos exist.

I'm just not swept away by the mass hysteria.

And  I don't buy the whole 'paedos exist therefore Maddie was abducted.... by a paedo', unlike yourself & the rest of the numpties who believe Gerry's imaginings.

You're never more than 10 feet from a serial rogue intruder who's just waiting to snatch your kids.

Lurking on every street corner, aren't they.

I have always hoped fervently that paedophiles had nothing at all to do with Madeleine's disappearance.

 ... and a quick look at some in action now that CCTV is so prevalent means that no one can be complacent about the risks to children from predators.

[Wonderfulspam]

It weren't us guv, it was this predator, honest!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqoj-pfBUnY&feature=player_detailpage#t=3175


'They've been watching us over a matter of days, I'm sure, you know, they know.. you know, they must have known that Gerry had just been into the apartment and then.... you're right, there was only a small window of opportunity but.. you know..'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Zqoj-pfBUnY#t=2947

[Wonderfulspam]

Tormented Kate McCann: I'm tortured by thought that Maddie is being abused by a paedophile

‘The idea of a monster like this touching my daughter, stroking her, defiling her perfect little body, just killed me over and over again.

‘I would lie in bed, hating the person who had done this to us – the person who had taken away our little girl and terrified her. I hated him. I wanted to kill him.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1384421/Kate-McCann-Im-tortured-thought-Maddie-abused-paedophile.html

[Wonderfulspam]

 

[jassi]

Tormented Kate McCann: I'm tortured by thought that Maddie is being abused by a paedophile

‘The idea of a monster like this touching my daughter, stroking her, defiling her perfect little body, just killed me over and over again.

‘I would lie in bed, hating the person who had done this to us – the person who had taken away our little girl and terrified her. I hated him. I wanted to kill him.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1384421/Kate-McCann-Im-tortured-thought-Maddie-abused-paedophile.html

Is this the one she has now apparently forgiven ?

[Wonderfulspam]

Is this the one she has now apparently forgiven ?

I wonder if she's forgiven the rest of the gang ?

Their abduction days are over now anyway.

Redwood is grilling all 11 of them as we speak.

I reckon that Mrs Batista will be the first to crack.

[ShiningInLuz]

I can see that this thread has now lost all connection with its original title.

Therefore, I feel free to reply in like to the post above, which is equally way off course.

Silvia Batista?  Why on earth Silvia Batista?  She got phoned up and went into help to translate.  She gave her DNA.

How about Amy Tierney, who for reasons explained in Kate's book rushed through 5A probably leaving DNA everywhere but if she gave a DNA sample (to exclude her) I can't find it.

Can we get back to the paedophile story?

I have read up to about page 8 or page 9 or thereabouts on this thread.  So far, I have found nothing that puts Roderick McDonald in Luz at the time of the attack.  Unless it changes in the next 9 or now 10 pages, I am having to go with that.

If you want to see whether you get a credit at shininginluz.wordpress.com, you can always come and check it out there.

Or you could trust me, when I say that I always give credit where credit is due.

So you will get credit.  100%.  Definitely.

But please, isn't the purpose of this thread about one single paedophile who may, or may not, be involved in the Madeleine incident?

Can we please get back on topic?

[lordpookles]

Silvia Batista. Wasn't she the first one at the scene when the alarm was given excluding the tapas members?

I like your blog btw. You seem to take more of an objective viewpoint imo. Is refreshing..

[misty]

I can see that this thread has now lost all connection with its original title.

Therefore, I feel free to reply in like to the post above, which is equally way off course.

Silvia Batista?  Why on earth Silvia Batista?  She got phoned up and went into help to translate.  She gave her DNA.

How about Amy Tierney, who for reasons explained in Kate's book rushed through 5A probably leaving DNA everywhere but if she gave a DNA sample (to exclude her) I can't find it.

Can we get back to the paedophile story?

I have read up to about page 8 or page 9 or thereabouts on this thread.  So far, I have found nothing that puts Roderick McDonald in Luz at the time of the attack.  Unless it changes in the next 9 or now 10 pages, I am having to go with that.

If you want to see whether you get a credit at shininginluz.wordpress.com, you can always come and check it out there.

Or you could trust me, when I say that I always give credit where credit is due.

So you will get credit.  100%.  Definitely.

But please, isn't the purpose of this thread about one single paedophile who may, or may not, be involved in the Madeleine incident?

Can we please get back on topic?

http://www.gethampshire.co.uk/news/local-news/convicted-aldershot-paedophile-questioned-over-8218098

*snip*
A close friend of MacDonald’s, who had no idea about his sordid past, said: “He was always talking about how he was in the Algarve when Madeleine went missing.

"He would brag about how he sailed a yacht into Praia da Luz but we never thought anything of it.
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Whoever he is, the fact that he is now in jail means that he is not free to target & abuse any more youngsters, and for that society should be thankful.
It is possible that he came to the attention of the authorities in Malta as a result of Operation Predator.

[pegasus]

...how he sailed a yacht into Praia da Luz...

Not possible. Keel of yacht would hit seafloor before reaching shore.

[misty]

Not possible. Keel of yacht would hit seafloor before reaching shore.

Perhaps he dropped anchor out near all those other luxury yachts & jumped in his dinghy. Who knows? I'm only citing what his friend allegedly said - and SY appear to think he may hold some useful information.