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Offline Mr Moderator

One of the recurring myths in the Madeleine McCann case is the claim that former PJ coordinator, Dr Gonçalo Amaral, determined Madeleine to be dead as early as the day immediately following her reported disappearance.

Amaral for his part goes into some detail in his book about the hours and days immediately following the disappearance and states that although there was a suspicion that things were not as they seemed, several scenarios continued to be investigated as to what might have happened to Madeleine.  These included but were not limited to, a misadventure after having wandered out of the family's holiday apartment,  an accident in the apartment followed by a concealment, a premeditated or negligent murder and last but not least, an abduction.

From Amaral's book page 15.

FIRST MORNING OF THE INVESTIGATION; AN ABDUCTION?

Still May 4th

When drawing up the report of the first observations, which must be forwarded to the district Judiciary Court of Lagos, we are undecided about the legal denomination of the events. Finally, we opt for "abduction??," adding two question marks after the word to express our uncertainty. The decision was not taken lightly. That decision preserves the interests of the various opposing parties, those of the parents, those of the child, not to say those of the investigation itself. The report by the team who conducted the analyses of the apartment records all observations carried out and statements gathered. It sets out the list of people present and potential witnesses. It also includes fingerprints taken as well as photographic documentation. On reading this report, which was given to me on the morning of May 4th, I understand that there is no evidence sufficiently convincing to tip the investigation in one direction rather than another. There are many possible leads: voluntary disappearance - the child could have wakened and not seeing her parents, gone off to look for them; accidental death and concealing of a body; physical abuse causing death; murder by negligence or premeditated; an act of vengeance; taken hostage followed by a ransom demand; abducted by a paedophile; kidnap or murder committed by a burglar. The hypothesis of abduction widens and complicates the investigations; it allows the mobilisation of means and resources that would have been difficult to obtain otherwise, such as the arrival of reinforcements, absolutely indispensable faced with the magnitude of the task, notably in the course of the first 72 hours. In a more calm climate, we could have got down to the search for evidence more effectively, allowing us to understand how that child disappeared, without worrying that suspicion might fall on the friends of the family.


and much later at page 68...

THE FORENSIC SPECIALISTS

It's July.

The hypothesis of death, including by the parents, is being seriously considered. However, no lead has yet come to anything, and we find ourselves in a cul-de-sac. We have to re-centre the investigation around its point of departure, apartment 5A at the Ocean Club, in Vila da Luz. We officially request the help of the best experts in criminology and forensics but also the specialist dog team from the English police...

After a week of intense work, Harrison presents the results of his study to my coordinating group. Even if we were expecting it, his conclusions confirm our worst fears. The most plausible scenario is the following: there is no doubt that Madeleine is dead, and her body is hidden somewhere in the area around Praia da Luz. He praises the quality of the work carried out by the Portuguese authorities in trying to find the little girl alive. According to him, the time has come to redirect the searches in order to find, this time, a body hidden in the surrounding area.
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Re: PJ Coordinator Dr Amaral was keeping his options open on day one.
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2014, 06:23:33 PM »
One of the recurring myths in the Madeleine McCann case is the claim that former PJ coordinator, Dr Gonçalo Amaral, determined Madeleine to be dead as early as the day immediately following her reported disappearance.

Amaral for his part goes into some detail in his book about the hours and days immediately following the disappearance and states that although there was a suspicion that things were not as they seemed, several scenarios continued to be investigated as to what might have happened to Madeleine.  These included but were not limited to, a misadventure after having wandered out of the family's holiday apartment,  an accident in the apartment followed by a concealment, a premeditated or negligent murder and last but not least, an abduction.

From Amaral's book page 15.

FIRST MORNING OF THE INVESTIGATION; AN ABDUCTION?

Still May 4th

When drawing up the report of the first observations, which must be forwarded to the district Judiciary Court of Lagos, we are undecided about the legal denomination of the events. Finally, we opt for "abduction??," adding two question marks after the word to express our uncertainty. The decision was not taken lightly. That decision preserves the interests of the various opposing parties, those of the parents, those of the child, not to say those of the investigation itself. The report by the team who conducted the analyses of the apartment records all observations carried out and statements gathered. It sets out the list of people present and potential witnesses. It also includes fingerprints taken as well as photographic documentation. On reading this report, which was given to me on the morning of May 4th, I understand that there is no evidence sufficiently convincing to tip the investigation in one direction rather than another. There are many possible leads: voluntary disappearance - the child could have wakened and not seeing her parents, gone off to look for them; accidental death and concealing of a body; physical abuse causing death; murder by negligence or premeditated; an act of vengeance; taken hostage followed by a ransom demand; abducted by a paedophile; kidnap or murder committed by a burglar. The hypothesis of abduction widens and complicates the investigations; it allows the mobilisation of means and resources that would have been difficult to obtain otherwise, such as the arrival of reinforcements, absolutely indispensable faced with the magnitude of the task, notably in the course of the first 72 hours. In a more calm climate, we could have got down to the search for evidence more effectively, allowing us to understand how that child disappeared, without worrying that suspicion might fall on the friends of the family.


and much later at page 68...

THE FORENSIC SPECIALISTS

It's July.

The hypothesis of death, including by the parents, is being seriously considered. However, no lead has yet come to anything, and we find ourselves in a cul-de-sac. We have to re-centre the investigation around its point of departure, apartment 5A at the Ocean Club, in Vila da Luz. We officially request the help of the best experts in criminology and forensics but also the specialist dog team from the English police...

After a week of intense work, Harrison presents the results of his study to my coordinating group. Even if we were expecting it, his conclusions confirm our worst fears. The most plausible scenario is the following: there is no doubt that Madeleine is dead, and her body is hidden somewhere in the area around Praia da Luz. He praises the quality of the work carried out by the Portuguese authorities in trying to find the little girl alive. According to him, the time has come to redirect the searches in order to find, this time, a body hidden in the surrounding area.

DL: At which point in time did you consider the McCanns to be suspects?

GA: Let’s see: In terms of suspicion, from the very first hour. The procedures in this type of case are to find out who the persons are, who the missing person is, in this case the missing child, and to find out all the antecedents. And now the first question that is asked from the English authorities, from the British police forces, is that one. Who were the parents, that group of people, and who was the child, was she the target of abuse, was she not. Then, it evolves, it’s a formal procedure, its general for all cases and when the first statements are made, that’s the day when we start to suspect that something is wrong. Things evolved, they were suspects until we reached the work of the English dogs and then the suspicions ultimately became indicia [evidence].


http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/02/exclusive-interview-to-former-pj.html

The shelved enquiry was a murder enquiry.

So Amaral suspected the McCanns of murder within the first hour (according to him!)
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Offline lordpookles

Re: PJ Coordinator Dr Amaral was keeping his options open on day one.
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2014, 06:32:04 PM »
Completley standard police procedure here in the UK, no? From what I hear it's to protect the parents as much as anything else and eliminate them from the enquiry as soon as possible so other avenues can be pursued. It's because statistically in these circumstances someone close to the victim is very often responsible...

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: PJ Coordinator Dr Amaral was keeping his options open on day one.
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2014, 06:39:06 PM »
DL: At which point in time did you consider the McCanns to be suspects?

GA: Let’s see: In terms of suspicion, from the very first hour. The procedures in this type of case are to find out who the persons are, who the missing person is, in this case the missing child, and to find out all the antecedents. And now the first question that is asked from the English authorities, from the British police forces, is that one. Who were the parents, that group of people, and who was the child, was she the target of abuse, was she not. Then, it evolves, it’s a formal procedure, its general for all cases and when the first statements are made, that’s the day when we start to suspect that something is wrong. Things evolved, they were suspects until we reached the work of the English dogs and then the suspicions ultimately became indicia [evidence].


http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/02/exclusive-interview-to-former-pj.html

The shelved enquiry was a murder enquiry.

So Amaral suspected the McCanns of murder within the first hour (according to him!)

I think it is more a case of "ferryman says that Dr Amaral said" old son  8(0(*
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline pathfinder73

Re: PJ Coordinator Dr Amaral was keeping his options open on day one.
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2014, 06:41:09 PM »
Standard procedure suspecting family and friends. And Amaral never received that background information that he requested about the family and friends on the first day. What were LP doing? He didn't get it by the time he left in October. That is unbelievable!
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.