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Offline pathfinder73

The Daily Mirror have got two video interviews with the gardener a letter was found saying Madeleine was dumped in a lake.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-cops-ignored-tip-off-4688474

Madeleine McCann cops 'ignored tip-off that her body was dumped in lake'
Nov 24, 2014 22:30 By David Collins

An employee of the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz found it in the doorway of apartment 5A, where Madeleine vanished, on the first anniversary of her disappearance

A letter handed in to Portuguese police claimed to know the final resting place of Madeleine McCann, it has emerged.

An employee of the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz found the letter in the doorway of apartment 5A, where Madeleine vanished, on the first anniversary of her disappearance.

The handyman, who we are not naming but was formerly employed by the holiday resort, immediately handed in the note to the police in May 2008.

He described the letter as being headed: “Madeleine Beth McCann”, with a description below of how she had been dumped in the Barragem da Bravura reservoir, nine miles from the holiday resort.

He said: “It was raining that night so it was soaking wet when I found it. It clearly said Madeleine’s name at the top. It was written in Portuguese.

“Beneath it was a location for what it claimed was her final resting place.

“I spoke to the other staff about it and they said to hand it in to the Portuguese police. I gave it to them, but I have no idea what they did about it.

“It would be the perfect place to hide a body.”



It is believed that although the surrounding woodland was initially looked at by detectives on the case, there has never been an underwater search of the reservoir.

Tonight a spokesperson for Kate and Gerry McCann said they would “welcome” any new searches of the area.

Clarence Mitchell said: “Kate and Gerry will be informed of what this witness is telling the Daily Mirror.

"We would welcome any new searches. But they cannot comment on any specific detail as that is entirely a matter for Operation Grange and the Portuguese authorities.”

The man-made lake is close to the A22 motorway which runs from Praia da Luz towards the Spanish border.

In October 2007, five months after Madeleine disappeared, officers from the Civil Guard helped search the large area of woodland, which has a lake in the middle supplying water to surrounding towns and villages.

The search was re-ordered by lead investigator Paulo Rebelo, who took over the stalled investigation, after concerns the area had not been searched properly when Madeleine went missing.

Detectives believed it was a possibility the youngster’s body may have been weighed down with rocks and disposed of in the huge expanse of water.

However reports at the time say police, along with specially trained sniffer dogs, spent just two hours at the site and are not thought to have deployed underwater search teams.

One eyewitness, who was there at the time of the search, said: “I never saw any divers physically trawl through that lake. The water is dark and murky and would need to be searched thoroughly.

”It’s so close to Praia da Luz, and such an obvious place to hide a body, that I’m amazed following an actual tip off this hasn’t been done.”



The Portuguese investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance has been widely criticised and is known to have made several serious mistakes, including the failure to close off the apartment which led to the contamination of the crime scene after up to 20 people were allowed inside.

It has previously been reported how a Dutch newspaper was sent an anonymous letter and a map of the area near the same reservoir bearing a cross and the words: “Where Madeleine is buried.”

The desolate Barragem da Bravura lake, or the “Reservoir of the Wilderness”, occupies an area two-and-a-half miles wide and a perimeter of 25 miles.

Only a handful of isolated dwellings dot the beauty spot.

Many of the Ocean Club staff believe the four-year-old could have been taken there after she vanished from the McCanns’ holiday apartment.

In February 2008, a team of divers hired by Portuguese lawyer Marcos Aragao Correia searched the Barragem do Arada reservoir, which is 35 miles east of Praia da Luz.

The human rights lawyer claimed that underworld criminals told him Madeleine was dumped in a nearby lake that was “deserted with lots of trees and a beach area” - however the search came to nothing.

Kate, 46, and Gerry, 45, of Rothley, Leics, were at a tapas bar about 80 yards from their apartment when Madeleine vanished.

Gerry checked on her and her brother and sister at 9.15pm. At 10pm Kate found she had gone.

Police believe seven new possible suspects, five men and two women, may have information.

It has been reported they also plan to re-interview expat Robert Murat, 41, who was cleared by the 2007 inquiry.

A friend of the McCann’s from Rothley, Leics, said they were desperate to find out what had happened to Madeleine and were confident Scotland Yard would “do everything in their power” to unravel the mystery.

The friend said: “They hope police search any potentially significant new place but until there is evidence to suggest otherwise Kate and Gerry remain hopeful that Madeleine could still be alive.

”If an anonymous letter has come to light which suggests their daughter’s body could be in a lake in a barren area not far from Praia da Luz then they know police will be thinking ‘Was this area searched before and do we need to look at it again?’

”They would hope it has been acted on before but if there is new information it will surely be in police hands.”

Former GP Kate and heart doctor Gerry, both 46, rarely comment on the huge multi-million police inquiry ordered by Prime Minister David Cameron.

But in a joint statement released this summer when cops were digging up part of the resort from were three-year-old Maddie was snatched in May 2007, they said: “We are very pleased that significant activity has taken place in Praia da Luz over the last eight days with police officers and support teams from the UK working closely with the Portuguese Policia Judiciaria and the Guarda Nacional Republicana.

”We are further encouraged that, despite intensive searches, no trace of Madeleine has been found and this reinforces our belief that she could still be alive.”

Kate and Gerry’s Portuguese lawyer Isabel Duarte told the Mirror: “They want to know exactly what has happened to their child.”

A Scotland Yard spokesperson refused to comment.


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« Last Edit: October 23, 2015, 03:33:20 PM by John »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: The mystery letter claiming Madeleine had been dumped in the Bravura Dam.
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2014, 11:06:48 PM »
This search was 8 months before the letter.

Madeleine: Police Divers To Trawl Reservoir
12:40, UK, Monday 15 October 2007

A reservoir is being scoured by specialist police divers as the hunt for Madeleine McCann intensifies.

Detectives are said to be preparing to search a 10-mile area around Praia da Luz, where the child vanished on May 3.

The hunt is also focusing on the Barragem da Bravura reservoir, which is around 15 miles away from the Algarve resort.

Paulo Rebelo, the man who is now heading the investigation, has ordered his officers to search the 2.5 mile-wide reservoir.

His investigators are also set to comb a three-mile stretch of coastline and beaches near Praia da Luz.

A spokesman for Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry McCann said: "Any widening of the search area is encouraging and we welcome it."

The previous investigation team was criticised for not searching properly for Madeleine, who went missing shortly before her fourth birthday.

Mr Rebelo has assembled a team of specialist detectives to boost the investigation, including two murder experts.

Portuguese newspaper Diario De Noticias claimed the search areas were related to mobile phone calls made by Madeleine's parents and their friends.

http://news.sky.com/story/547048/madeleine-police-divers-to-trawl-reservoir
« Last Edit: November 24, 2014, 11:14:58 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline misty

Re: The mystery letter claiming Madeleine had been dumped in the Bravura Dam.
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2014, 11:19:21 PM »
The Daily Mirror have got an two video interviews with the gardener a letter was found saying Madeleine was dumped in a lake.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-cops-ignored-tip-off-4688474

Madeleine McCann cops 'ignored tip-off that her body was dumped in lake'
Nov 24, 2014 22:30 By David Collins

An employee of the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz found it in the doorway of apartment 5A, where Madeleine vanished, on the first anniversary of her disappearance

A letter handed in to Portuguese police claimed to know the final resting place of Madeleine McCann, it has emerged.

An employee of the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz found the letter in the doorway of apartment 5A, where Madeleine vanished, on the first anniversary of her disappearance.

The handyman, who we are not naming but was formerly employed by the holiday resort, immediately handed in the note to the police in May 2008.

He described the letter as being headed: “Madeleine Beth McCann”, with a description below of how she had been dumped in the Barragem da Bravura reservoir, nine miles from the holiday resort.

He said: “It was raining that night so it was soaking wet when I found it. It clearly said Madeleine’s name at the top. It was written in Portuguese.

“Beneath it was a location for what it claimed was her final resting place.

“I spoke to the other staff about it and they said to hand it in to the Portuguese police. I gave it to them, but I have no idea what they did about it.

“It would be the perfect place to hide a body.”



It is believed that although the surrounding woodland was initially looked at by detectives on the case, there has never been an underwater search of the reservoir.

Tonight a spokesperson for Kate and Gerry McCann said they would “welcome” any new searches of the area.

Clarence Mitchell said: “Kate and Gerry will be informed of what this witness is telling the Daily Mirror.

"We would welcome any new searches. But they cannot comment on any specific detail as that is entirely a matter for Operation Grange and the Portuguese authorities.”

The man-made lake is close to the A22 motorway which runs from Praia da Luz towards the Spanish border.

In October 2007, five months after Madeleine disappeared, officers from the Civil Guard helped search the large area of woodland, which has a lake in the middle supplying water to surrounding towns and villages.

The search was re-ordered by lead investigator Paulo Rebelo, who took over the stalled investigation, after concerns the area had not been searched properly when Madeleine went missing.

Detectives believed it was a possibility the youngster’s body may have been weighed down with rocks and disposed of in the huge expanse of water.

However reports at the time say police, along with specially trained sniffer dogs, spent just two hours at the site and are not thought to have deployed underwater search teams.

One eyewitness, who was there at the time of the search, said: “I never saw any divers physically trawl through that lake. The water is dark and murky and would need to be searched thoroughly.

”It’s so close to Praia da Luz, and such an obvious place to hide a body, that I’m amazed following an actual tip off this hasn’t been done.”



The Portuguese investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance has been widely criticised and is known to have made several serious mistakes, including the failure to close off the apartment which led to the contamination of the crime scene after up to 20 people were allowed inside.

It has previously been reported how a Dutch newspaper was sent an anonymous letter and a map of the area near the same reservoir bearing a cross and the words: “Where Madeleine is buried.”

The desolate Barragem da Bravura lake, or the “Reservoir of the Wilderness”, occupies an area two-and-a-half miles wide and a perimeter of 25 miles.

Only a handful of isolated dwellings dot the beauty spot.

Many of the Ocean Club staff believe the four-year-old could have been taken there after she vanished from the McCanns’ holiday apartment.

In February 2008, a team of divers hired by Portuguese lawyer Marcos Aragao Correia searched the Barragem do Arada reservoir, which is 35 miles east of Praia da Luz.

The human rights lawyer claimed that underworld criminals told him Madeleine was dumped in a nearby lake that was “deserted with lots of trees and a beach area” - however the search came to nothing.

Kate, 46, and Gerry, 45, of Rothley, Leics, were at a tapas bar about 80 yards from their apartment when Madeleine vanished.

Gerry checked on her and her brother and sister at 9.15pm. At 10pm Kate found she had gone.

Police believe seven new possible suspects, five men and two women, may have information.

It has been reported they also plan to re-interview expat Robert Murat, 41, who was cleared by the 2007 inquiry.

A friend of the McCann’s from Rothley, Leics, said they were desperate to find out what had happened to Madeleine and were confident Scotland Yard would “do everything in their power” to unravel the mystery.

The friend said: “They hope police search any potentially significant new place but until there is evidence to suggest otherwise Kate and Gerry remain hopeful that Madeleine could still be alive.

”If an anonymous letter has come to light which suggests their daughter’s body could be in a lake in a barren area not far from Praia da Luz then they know police will be thinking ‘Was this area searched before and do we need to look at it again?’

”They would hope it has been acted on before but if there is new information it will surely be in police hands.”

Former GP Kate and heart doctor Gerry, both 46, rarely comment on the huge multi-million police inquiry ordered by Prime Minister David Cameron.

But in a joint statement released this summer when cops were digging up part of the resort from were three-year-old Maddie was snatched in May 2007, they said: “We are very pleased that significant activity has taken place in Praia da Luz over the last eight days with police officers and support teams from the UK working closely with the Portuguese Policia Judiciaria and the Guarda Nacional Republicana.

”We are further encouraged that, despite intensive searches, no trace of Madeleine has been found and this reinforces our belief that she could still be alive.”

Kate and Gerry’s Portuguese lawyer Isabel Duarte told the Mirror: “They want to know exactly what has happened to their child.”

A Scotland Yard spokesperson refused to comment.


Somebody in Portugal is getting really desperate.
Did the Met really waste all that time & money at the wasteland instead of trawling the reservoir?

Offline faithlilly

Re: The mystery letter claiming Madeleine had been dumped in the Bravura Dam.
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2014, 11:26:21 PM »
This search was 8 months before the letter.

Madeleine: Police Divers To Trawl Reservoir
12:40, UK, Monday 15 October 2007

A reservoir is being scoured by specialist police divers as the hunt for Madeleine McCann intensifies.

Detectives are said to be preparing to search a 10-mile area around Praia da Luz, where the child vanished on May 3.

The hunt is also focusing on the Barragem da Bravura reservoir, which is around 15 miles away from the Algarve resort.

Paulo Rebelo, the man who is now heading the investigation, has ordered his officers to search the 2.5 mile-wide reservoir.

His investigators are also set to comb a three-mile stretch of coastline and beaches near Praia da Luz.

A spokesman for Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry McCann said: "Any widening of the search area is encouraging and we welcome it."

The previous investigation team was criticised for not searching properly for Madeleine, who went missing shortly before her fourth birthday.

Mr Rebelo has assembled a team of specialist detectives to boost the investigation, including two murder experts.

Portuguese newspaper Diario De Noticias claimed the search areas were related to mobile phone calls made by Madeleine's parents and their friends.

http://news.sky.com/story/547048/madeleine-police-divers-to-trawl-reservoir

Oops !! That's torn it !!
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline bros

Re: The mystery letter claiming Madeleine had been dumped in the Bravura Dam.
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2014, 11:30:48 PM »
Nice diversion to stop looking for child which is probably live and well since SY stated there are no evidence she is not live. I just love there desperate ideas, it is coming to end.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: The mystery letter claiming Madeleine had been dumped in the Bravura Dam.
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2014, 11:33:12 PM »

Somebody in Portugal is getting really desperate.
Did the Met really waste all that time & money at the wasteland instead of trawling the reservoir?

There's a video interview with the gardener who said he found the letter on one year anniversary May 2008. That's near to where the Dutch letter said she was buried which I was interested in investigating further. I'm going to look into it.

That weekend 2/3 June is looking suspicious. One month after her disappearance.

SAT 2 June 2007
14:14 Ladeira do Vau (a mile to the North of Portimao)
{ 2 hours 21 minutes gap }
16:35 Praia Rocha Este (Beach to the South of Portimao)
Last ping in Praia da Rocha at 19:48
Reach Lagos Norte at 20:11
{ 2.5 hour gap }
Next ping at 22:46 back in PdL Centro

I'm going to double check these phone gaps.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2014, 11:49:23 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: The mystery letter claiming Madeleine had been dumped in the Bravura Dam.
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2014, 11:37:26 PM »
This search was 8 months before the letter.

Madeleine: Police Divers To Trawl Reservoir
12:40, UK, Monday 15 October 2007

A reservoir is being scoured by specialist police divers as the hunt for Madeleine McCann intensifies.

Detectives are said to be preparing to search a 10-mile area around Praia da Luz, where the child vanished on May 3.

The hunt is also focusing on the Barragem da Bravura reservoir, which is around 15 miles away from the Algarve resort.

Paulo Rebelo, the man who is now heading the investigation, has ordered his officers to search the 2.5 mile-wide reservoir.

His investigators are also set to comb a three-mile stretch of coastline and beaches near Praia da Luz.

A spokesman for Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry McCann said: "Any widening of the search area is encouraging and we welcome it."

The previous investigation team was criticised for not searching properly for Madeleine, who went missing shortly before her fourth birthday.

Mr Rebelo has assembled a team of specialist detectives to boost the investigation, including two murder experts.

Portuguese newspaper Diario De Noticias claimed the search areas were related to mobile phone calls made by Madeleine's parents and their friends.

http://news.sky.com/story/547048/madeleine-police-divers-to-trawl-reservoir
So we can now turn to the Police Files to verify this claim by Diario De Noticias, yes?

Offline VIXTE

Re: The mystery letter claiming Madeleine had been dumped in the Bravura Dam.
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2014, 11:54:08 PM »
Is it only me.. the gardener video makes me feel uneasy..

Offline lordpookles

Re: The mystery letter claiming Madeleine had been dumped in the Bravura Dam.
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2014, 11:56:09 PM »
Doesn't make me feel uneasy. Just thought he seemed really nervous. Stupid to speak to the press imo.

Offline VIXTE

Re: The mystery letter claiming Madeleine had been dumped in the Bravura Dam.
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2014, 11:58:35 PM »
There's a video interview with the gardener who said he found the letter on one year anniversary May 2008. That's near to where the Dutch letter said she was buried which I was interested in investigating further. I'm going to look into it.

That weekend 2/3 June is looking suspicious. One month after her disappearance.

SAT 2 June 2007
14:14 Ladeira do Vau (a mile to the North of Portimao)
{ 2 hours 21 minutes gap }
16:35 Praia Rocha Este (Beach to the South of Portimao)
Last ping in Praia da Rocha at 19:48
Reach Lagos Norte at 20:11
{ 2.5 hour gap }
Next ping at 22:46 back in PdL Centro

I'm going to double check these phone gaps.

This area seems not much habited. It would be easy to get the phone masts data from the area in the days of Madeleine's disappearance and compare it with the data for PDL for May 3. They can write a program to search for every day for several months.. If they find a match then this can be pretty big..

Offline misty

Re: The mystery letter claiming Madeleine had been dumped in the Bravura Dam.
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2014, 12:00:33 AM »
Is it only me.. the gardener video makes me feel uneasy..

No, it's not just you. The 2nd video is garbled & makes no real sense. Is he saying someone saw him there "with the boys" in a white van on the day Madeleine went missing? Does he know Dan who did the gardening for Jenny Murat?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: The mystery letter claiming Madeleine had been dumped in the Bravura Dam.
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2014, 12:05:03 AM »
Detectives visited Father Jose at his parents’ home in Odiaxere, about 10 miles from Praia da Luz and close to the Barragem da Bravura lake which detectives searched last month for the body of the missing four-year-old girl.

MADELEINE: POLICE QUIZ PRIEST AGAIN
Tuesday November 20,2007
By Nick Fagge in Praia da Luz

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2007/11/madeleine-police-quiz-priest-again.html
« Last Edit: November 25, 2014, 12:12:39 AM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline VIXTE

Re: The mystery letter claiming Madeleine had been dumped in the Bravura Dam.
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2014, 12:10:44 AM »
Wait a minute! Wasn't this lake searched for days using private funds by this guy who was the solicitor for Cipriano mother?
Carreira something?

Offline Eleanor

Re: The mystery letter claiming Madeleine had been dumped in the Bravura Dam.
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2014, 12:16:38 AM »
Wait a minute! Wasn't this lake searched for days using private funds by this guy who was the solicitor for Cipriano mother?
Carreira something?

Two different stretches of water, I think.

Offline Brietta

Re: The mystery letter claiming Madeleine had been dumped in the Bravura Dam.
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2014, 12:18:37 AM »
Doesn't make me feel uneasy. Just thought he seemed really nervous. Stupid to speak to the press imo.

Was he aware he was being filmed?
I don't think he was.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....