Its blame Sheila time again!

[Dillon]

Oh blame Sheila time again is it? Groundhog day again at Tesco Towers!

At least they have an eco conscience. I have never seen so much pointless recycling!

Surprise, surprise !! The Bamber supporters know perfectly well that the only real defence case that they can present is to blame Sheila so here they go again churning out the same repetitive ill informed garbage. Silly sad individuals like " Lookout " reel out ad nauseum their prejudiced fiction about the family being dysfunctional and a distorted perception of Sheila's health problems . Of course we know that it is extraordinarily unlikely that Sheila was responsible. It is not a complicated case.  Innocent Sheila = Guilty Jeremy. End of story. It really is not rocket science . Just a shame that some people's lives are so lacking in meaning that they have to waste endless lonely hours tapping away at their computers.

There's that name again?  There would appear to be a concerted effort by unnamed individuals on the blue forum to try and discredit Sheila and lay the blame at what happened at her door.  I have seen the same nonsense being promoted on twitter by other faceless individuals.  Had Sheila been in such a disturbed state of mind she could very well have used the rifle, it isn't rocket science after all.  What she couldn't have done though was to achieve total annihilation in the way it occurred. Only someone with acute cunning and expert knowledge of that particular weapon could have done that.  The lack of prints, the absence of blood spatter on Sheila and the absence of the slightest forensic evidence on her body or clothing which could put her anywhere near the actual killings is testament to her innocence.

Thank you. Nicely put, John. Knowing what I do about Sheila, I think that if she had gone crazy with a gun the shots would have been all over the place, probably half of them bringing the plaster down from the ceiling. Whoever did this had to be quite skilled with this specific type of weapon as you shrewdly suggest. 

[Myster]

You'll be giving Tesko ideas now Dillon.... he'll be dusting off all his crime scene photos, and scouring them with a magnifying glass for signs of gypsum on the carpet.  >@@(*&)

[John]

Oh blame Sheila time again is it? Groundhog day again at Tesco Towers!

At least they have an eco conscience. I have never seen so much pointless recycling!

Surprise, surprise !! The Bamber supporters know perfectly well that the only real defence case that they can present is to blame Sheila so here they go again churning out the same repetitive ill informed garbage. Silly sad individuals like " Lookout " reel out ad nauseum their prejudiced fiction about the family being dysfunctional and a distorted perception of Sheila's health problems . Of course we know that it is extraordinarily unlikely that Sheila was responsible. It is not a complicated case.  Innocent Sheila = Guilty Jeremy. End of story. It really is not rocket science . Just a shame that some people's lives are so lacking in meaning that they have to waste endless lonely hours tapping away at their computers.

There's that name again?  There would appear to be a concerted effort by unnamed individuals on the blue forum to try and discredit Sheila and lay the blame at what happened at her door.  I have seen the same nonsense being promoted on twitter by other faceless individuals.  Had Sheila been in such a disturbed state of mind she could very well have used the rifle, it isn't rocket science after all.  What she couldn't have done though was to achieve total annihilation in the way it occurred. Only someone with acute cunning and expert knowledge of that particular weapon could have done that.  The lack of prints, the absence of blood spatter on Sheila and the absence of the slightest forensic evidence on her body or clothing which could put her anywhere near the actual killings is testament to her innocence.

Thank you. Nicely put, John. Knowing what I do about Sheila, I think that if she had gone crazy with a gun the shots would have been all over the place, probably half of them bringing the plaster down from the ceiling. Whoever did this had to be quite skilled with this specific type of weapon as you shrewdly suggest.

I think we are reading from the same page Dillon.  Those shots were targeted very much so, I am going from memory here but I think only one bullet missed a target.  An emotionally unbalanced young woman would never have been able to do such a thing, not in a million years and that is where Jeremy's tale falls down.

If there was the slightest evidence that Sheila used that rifle or was anywhere near the victims then I would give Jeremy the benefit of the doubt but this is simply not the case.  The forensic evidence is 99.5% clear on this fact and that is one hell-of-a mountain to climb!

[goatboy]

Oh blame Sheila time again is it? Groundhog day again at Tesco Towers!

At least they have an eco conscience. I have never seen so much pointless recycling!

Surprise, surprise !! The Bamber supporters know perfectly well that the only real defence case that they can present is to blame Sheila so here they go again churning out the same repetitive ill informed garbage. Silly sad individuals like " Lookout " reel out ad nauseum their prejudiced fiction about the family being dysfunctional and a distorted perception of Sheila's health problems . Of course we know that it is extraordinarily unlikely that Sheila was responsible. It is not a complicated case.  Innocent Sheila = Guilty Jeremy. End of story. It really is not rocket science . Just a shame that some people's lives are so lacking in meaning that they have to waste endless lonely hours tapping away at their computers.

There's that name again?  There would appear to be a concerted effort by unnamed individuals on the blue forum to try and discredit Sheila and lay the blame at what happened at her door.  I have seen the same nonsense being promoted on twitter by other faceless individuals.  Had Sheila been in such a disturbed state of mind she could very well have used the rifle, it isn't rocket science after all.  What she couldn't have done though was to achieve total annihilation in the way it occurred. Only someone with acute cunning and expert knowledge of that particular weapon could have done that.  The lack of prints, the absence of blood spatter on Sheila and the absence of the slightest forensic evidence on her body or clothing which could put her anywhere near the actual killings is testament to her innocence.

Thank you. Nicely put, John. Knowing what I do about Sheila, I think that if she had gone crazy with a gun the shots would have been all over the place, probably half of them bringing the plaster down from the ceiling. Whoever did this had to be quite skilled with this specific type of weapon as you shrewdly suggest.

I think we are reading from the same page Dillon.  Those shots were targeted very much so, I am going from memory here but I think only one bullet missed a target.  An emotionally unbalanced young woman would never have been able to do such a thing, not in a million years and that is where Jeremy's tale falls down.

If there was the slightest evidence that Sheila used that rifle or was anywhere near the victims then I would give Jeremy the benefit of the doubt but this is simply not the case.  The forensic evidence is 99.5% clear on this fact and that is one hell-of-a mountain to climb!

Exactly. I don't doubt Sheila could have fired the rifle and killed people if she was experiencing a psychotic episode due to her mental health problems (and let's remember that there don't seem to be any witnesses to such episodes from her past where she had harmed anyone else, only herself). However, I don't believe she would have been able to reload at least twice, batter her father senseless, fire so many shots on target and then have next to no evidence on her self and her clothing which would indicate she had done all of this. And choosing to do this in a flimsy nightie with no pockets would have made it very hard to have ammo to hand to reload with. And the idea that she ran upstairs with a significant neck wound when police had presumed she was already dead sounds like something out of a bad horror movie.

[Admin]

And the idea that she ran upstairs with a significant neck wound when police had presumed she was already dead sounds like something out of a bad horror movie.

Yes, a Tesko horror movie.      

[Angelo222]

I think (for what it's worth) there has been too much emphasis on Sheila's mental state, possibly (and I say it as loud as I can) because people watch the news about killings and there are times when a paranoid schizophrenic hasn't taken medication and turned on a relative. Its unfortunate that SOME people associate this to Sheila "Oh, she's gone off on one and killed 5 people" which is clearly not the case.
There are plenty of people who suffer from a mental illness or episode who successfully recover or continue to receive treatment without issue or have an issue and then sucessfully recover.
Obviously JB and his bamberettes haven't caught on (and I was one of them) after 25 years that he isn't going to leave prison despite numerous appeals, surely that must make people think. I know people have to wait a long time for justice (Stefan Kizcho/Barry George to name too) but what about justice for Sheila? We're half way there-JB is in prison, now it's his fan club who need telling.

A good post Joanne but such a pity you have chosen to run off and align yourself with those idiots who would malign Sheila and her memory regardless of how respectful they pretend to be. 

[puglove]

Gosh, that's a good video, that roch has posted. Am I allowed to say that JB looked like a horribly cocky tw..?

He really, really thought that he was going to get away with it, didn't he?

[Angelo222]

Gosh, that's a good video, that roch has posted. Am I allowed to say that JB looked like a horribly cocky tw..?

He really, really thought that he was going to get away with it, didn't he?

He sure did.  I noticed a tweet today which associated Bambers case with the Birmingham 6.  What the hell Bamber has in common with a group of suspected Irish terrorists defies reason.  It seems that even 27 years later the monumental brutality of his crime in killing two innocent six year old boys along with his sister and parents still has some people wondering how such a nice well dressed and good looking young man could ever have done such a dreadful thing?  The bit that most observers fail to understand is that psychopaths come in all shapes and sizes.

He did think that his guile and cunning would get him off and nearly did. Two jurors were fooled by him which doesn't surprise me in the least.  Had they known what we know now and had the benefit of DNA at that time I have no doubt that the verdict would have been unanimous.

[frank50]

Not just a horrible cocky tw.. but really evil psychotic eyes. That picture of him being led into the police van was all that I needed to be convinced that he was guiltly. Really evil.

Gosh, that's a good video, that roch has posted. Am I allowed to say that JB looked like a horribly cocky tw..?

He really, really thought that he was going to get away with it, didn't he?

[frank50]

For sure - they have been pushing this miscarriages of justice line for ages -trying to align themselves with the great miscarriages of justice of all time. Difference is that they have no legitimiate support. The Birmingham Six/ Guildford Four had great lawyers behind them like Gareth Peirce and Michael Mansfield QC and a host of highly- respected journalists and campaigners. Why - because everyone knew they were innocent. Who has Bamber got fighting his corner - Simon Mckay and previously Giovanni Di Steffano ( awaiting trial on 28 charges of fraud). Enough said.

 

Gosh, that's a good video, that roch has posted. Am I allowed to say that JB looked like a horribly cocky tw..?

He really, really thought that he was going to get away with it, didn't he?

He sure did.  I noticed a tweet today which associated Bambers case with the Birmingham 6.  What the hell Bamber has in common with a group of suspected Irish terrorists defies reason.  It seems that even 27 years later the monumental brutality of his crime in killing two innocent six year old boys along with his sister and parents still has some people wondering how such a nice well dressed and good looking young man could ever have done such a dreadful thing?  The bit that most observers fail to understand is that psychopaths come in all shapes and sizes.

He did think that his guile and cunning would get him off and nearly did. Two jurors were fooled by him which doesn't surprise me in the least.  Had they known what we know now and had the benefit of DNA at that time I have no doubt that the verdict would have been unanimous.

[puglove]

Not just a horrible cocky tw.. but really evil psychotic eyes. That picture of him being led into the police van was all that I needed to be convinced that he was guiltly. Really evil.

Gosh, that's a good video, that roch has posted. Am I allowed to say that JB looked like a horribly cocky tw..?

He really, really thought that he was going to get away with it, didn't he?

And when you watch him at the funeral, you realise what a piss-poor actor he was, too.

Thank goodness for Julie Mugford.

[Angelo222]

For sure - they have been pushing this miscarriages of justice line for ages -trying to align themselves with the great miscarriages of justice of all time. Difference is that they have no legitimiate support. The Birmingham Six/ Guildford Four had great lawyers behind them like Gareth Peirce and Michael Mansfield QC and a host of highly- respected journalists and campaigners. Why - because everyone knew they were innocent. Who has Bamber got fighting his corner - Simon Mckay and previously Giovanni Di Steffano ( awaiting trial on 28 charges of fraud). Enough said.

Wasn't Mansfield the QC in the Simon Hall case too?  It be interesting to see if he comes back to it if the CCRC gives the go ahead.  Somehow I have my doubts on both counts.

[John]

As I previously posted this blaming Sheila is the only option left to Jeremy and his entourage.  It is obvious from the direction the campaign has taken that they have no other option available to them.  There never was a stranger or an intruder involved, this was all just more hot air put out there to confuse. The evidence relating to Sheila is very very clear however, there are no ambiguities or dubious facts. We can follow the trail of devastation as it proceeded from the master bedroom to the kitchen and then back again.  We know what shots were fired where and when and we know that Nevill fought like a hero for his life. Isn't it rather ironic that he fought and survived the war and came home a hero only to be murdered in his twilight years by a conniving coward. 

Sheila can never be implicated in the killings, it is an impossibility and I am quite sure the CCRC are very aware of this just as we are. There is no way his case will ever be referred to the court of appeal no matter how many fantasy stories are told.  His only hope is to come clean and admit his crimes. Then and only then he might get an opportunity for parole at some stage but time is running out.

[frank50]

Mansfield is sort of semi-retired now - he doesnt do as many cases and is much more choosy as to what he does take on.

For sure - they have been pushing this miscarriages of justice line for ages -trying to align themselves with the great miscarriages of justice of all time. Difference is that they have no legitimiate support. The Birmingham Six/ Guildford Four had great lawyers behind them like Gareth Peirce and Michael Mansfield QC and a host of highly- respected journalists and campaigners. Why - because everyone knew they were innocent. Who has Bamber got fighting his corner - Simon Mckay and previously Giovanni Di Steffano ( awaiting trial on 28 charges of fraud). Enough said.

Wasn't Mansfield the QC in the Simon Hall case too?  It be interesting to see if he comes back to it if the CCRC gives the go ahead.  Somehow I have my doubts on both counts.

[John]

He wouldn't be the sort of guy to take Mrs Blumpkins nonsense lightly if what they say about him is in any way true,  These older QC's with reputations like to hold onto them at all costs and all it would take to tarnish them is one messy case.  Hall would be better with fresh senior counsel in any event as the arguments before the CCRC are based primarily on new information aside from the fibres issue which for me is a non starter in any event.