JonBenét Investigation 2015 Team JBI

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BOULDER, CO — It’s easy to feel a little sad for Mark Beckner, the former Boulder, Colorado, police chief and Reddit newbie who did an Ask Me Anything segment this weekend, unaware that his answers were accessible to the entire world.

We copied all of the chat files before the answers were deleted.

Now the question should be WHY?

Time will tell.

Team JBI

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Last Saturday, Mark Beckner did I nice job in the Q & A about the JonBenet Ramsey's case.

At the end of the posts, he posted this statement to all of the viewers.

MarkBeckner

"Ok, thank you everyone. It's been fun. Hope you learned something or at least were entertained for awhile. Take care."

Now all of his answers has been deleted. I will carefully reread all of the save posts from our files.

Team JBI

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At one point Boulder police stated that the 911 call to police had more information at the end of the call.
We could never hear any one talking after the end of the call.

In the Q & A, This question was ask to the Ex Police Chief.

Question:

"It has been reported the dialogue at the end of the 911 tape was: Male: "We're not speaking to you!" Female: "Help me Jesus. Help me Jesus." Young Male: "Well, what did you find?" Do you believe this is valid, that those words were actually spoken?"

MarkBeckner:

"The words are difficult to hear and some claim they cannot hear them. After listening to the tape many times, I can tell you that I can hear what sounds like voices saying those words."

We could never hear any voices at the end of the tape. I ask John Ramsey about this and he said there was no other voices. I support his statement as fact.

Team JBI

Play the 911 call for your self:   http://mp3.911dispatch.com.s3.amazonaws.com/jonbenet_911.mp3

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The question has allway been, who killed Jonbenet.

Q & A Question

"What do you believe actually happened to JonBenet? Who do you think is responsible?"


MarkBeckner:

"We know from the evidence she was hit in the head very hard with an unknown object, possibly a flashlight or similar type item. The blow knocked her into deep unconsciousness, which could have led someone to believe she was dead. The strangulation came 45 minutes to two hours after the head strike, based on the swelling on the brain. While the head wound would have eventually killed her, the strangulation actually did kill her. The rest of the scene we believe was staged, including the vaginal trauma, to make it look like a kidnapping/assault gone bad. I have avoided saying who I believe is responsible and let the facts speak for themselves. There are several viable theories."

As we look at the case as a hole, we do not support the statement above.
This thinking has cause this case to become and stay a cold case.

Out side the Butler door was a child metal ball bat. The fibers found on this bat match the carpet fibers next to wear Jonbenet was killed. The knob end matches the damage to Jonbenet head. The ball bat was not source to the Ramsey family. A neighbor heard what sounded like metal rubbing on concrete as if the killer though the bat on the concrete wall wear it was found.





Match the knob end of the bat to the damage to JonBenet head.



Team JBI

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DNA found at the crime scene on three places and on two items.

Q & A Question

Question:

"Can you comment on the usefulness of the new DNA testing that apparently exonerated the parents? I read Foreign Faction by James Kolar and he asserts that the DNA in no way exonerates them and, in fact, points to such an odd scenario (6 intruders) as the only possible solution outside of coincidental depositing that the idea that it exonerates the parents is ludicrous. I'd be very interested to see a rebuttal, if there is one. Thanks for doing this!

Also, in Patsy's Christmas cards she sent that year, I read somewhere that she used an unfamiliar word, (can't remember what the word was) that was also used in the ransom note. Is this true?"

MarkBeckner:

"Sorry, I can't provide the rebuttal, as I agree with Jim Kolar. Exonerating anyone based on a small piece of evidence that has not yet been proven to even be connected to the crime is absurd in my opinion. You must look at any case in the totality of all the evidence, circumstances, statements, etc. in coming to conclusions. Mary Lacy, the DA who said the DNA exonerated them made up her mind years before that a mother could not do that to a child, thus the family was innocent. Even though we pointed out that it is not unheard of for mothers do such things.....and you would know that if you just watched the news."

DNA Testing 
In 2008, a few months before Mary Lacy left office, Lacy apologized  to the Ramseys, saying,
“I believe it is important and appropriate to  provide you with our opinion that your family was not responsible for  this crime.”
She cited the “unknown” male DNA found in JonBenet’s  underwear, consistent with that found on the waistband of her  leggings.
“The match of male DNA on two separate items of clothing  worn by the victim at the time of the murder makes it clear to us that  an unknown male handled these items,”
she wrote.
“Based on the  DNA results and our serious consideration of all the other evidence,  we are comfortable that the profile now in CODIS (the Combined  DNA Index System) is the profile of the perpetrator of this murder.” 
Improvements in DNA sampling along with increasingly sensitive  testing methods have enabled scientists to obtain results from  cases that were once unsolvable.
 
One example of the success that  Bode has had processing cold cases including:
•Touch DNA collection procedures were applied to evidence from  the JonBenet Ramsey cold case that resulted in a potentially  probative DNA profile. 
The Bode Lab recovered DNA from the top portion of  the leggings, on both the right and left legs, where the  perpetrator would have put his hands to move the  leggings.
Those new DNA "touch" samples from the  leggings match the DNA that was found in 1997 on the  panties of the child. 
At the time of JonBenet's death, technology for DNA testing on the  child's panties used "swabs" from fluid obtained from skin and  clothing to establish DNA identity.

Lacy's letter also stated:
"Solving this crime remains our goal, and its ultimate  resolution will depend on more than just matching DNA.  However, given the history of the publicity surrounding  this case, I believe it is important and appropriate to  provide you with our opinion that your family was not  responsible for this crime."

Bode’s SecurSwab DUO-V Swab System Ranks #1

We use these products in our lab.

Video link: http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/touch-dna-clears-ramseys/

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Q & A Questions

Question

"JBR was dressed when found, as far as I know. Does this mean the killer sexually molested her with the paintbrush handle and then dressed her back into her underwear and leggings before placing her body in the wine cellar?"

MarkBeckner:

"Yes."

Question:

"Wow. That is interesting. I guess there wasn't a time problem for the killer."

MarkBeckner:

"The killer also took the time to find a pad and sharpie pen, write a 2.5 page ransom note, fashion a garrote and choke her with it, then wrap her in a blanket with one of her favorite nightgowns and place her in a storage room in the basement. He/she/they then neatly put the pad and pen away and escaped without leaving much evidence."


Most of the crime scene evidence has not been made public. If the evidence point way from the family, it was not look into. We have found that there is a lot of evidence that have not been tested, people not interview and other information not follow up in this crime.

Our new lab testing could break this case.



In 1989, researchers with the Department of Chemistry, Belfast, Northern Ireland (per the FBI) introduced DFO, which is now commercially available and used in the United Kingdom. Unlike ninhydrin, DFO gives a weakly colored initial print; the main feature of this reagent is its ability to give a fluorescent print without secondary treatment.

 DFO is said to produce 2.5 times the number of latent prints than Ninhydrin.
 

Team JBI

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Reading between the lines, Mark Beckner obviously seems to believe it was an inside job. What two-bit kidnapper would take the time to draft a three page ransom note while on the property?

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Q & A Questions

"What was your gut instinct when John Mark Karr confessed to the murder?"

MarkBeckner:

"My gut reaction was that Mary Lacy did not know the facts of the case and was making a big mistake. His confession, once they shared it with us, did not match the evidence at the scene. After she asked for our help in proving he did it, we knew in about 18 hours he was not the guy. We were able to confirm he was not even in Colorado at the time by just doing some routine checking and then obtained photos of him in Georgia at the time. The DNA test, which she thought would prove he did it, proved her wrong."


Learn more about what John Mark Karr is doing. I talk to him a few months ago. He is a interesting person and may live right now in the UK.

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Reading between the lines, Mark Beckner obviously seems to believe it was an inside job. What two-bit kidnapper would take the time to draft a three page ransom note while on the property?

Thank you for the question.

We support that the killer printed the ransom note before the crime. A neighbor seen a white male walk up to the Ramsey's house right after the family left for the Christmas dinner near 5:00 o'clock. They came home at around 9:30 PM. this gave the killer 4 and 1/2 hours to print the 2 and 1/2 page ransom note.
Our lab testing about the ransom note has shown us that it take thirty minutes to print the note.
All case experts support that the note was printed before the crime, not after as the Boulder police has base this case on.

Please read this profile made from the writing of the ransom note. I do not think the writer was a "two-bit kidnapper".

Special profile made from the three page ransom note.

Victory Report:
This personality profile is based on the writing of Victory S.B.T.C.

Personality report creator based on standardized basic personality traits.

Victory uses judgment to make decisions.
He is ruled by his head, not his heart.
He is a cool, collected person who is usually unexpressive emotionally.
Some may see him as unemotional.
He does have emotions but has no need to express them.
He is withdrawn into himself and enjoys being alone.
The circumstances when Victory does express emotions include:
extreme anger, extreme passion, and tremendous stress.
If someone gets him mad enough to tell him off, he will not be sorry about it later.
He puts a mark in his mind when someone angers him.
He keeps track of these marks and when he hits that last mark he will let them know they have gone too far.
He is ruled somewhat by self-interest.
All his conclusions are made without outside emotional influence.
He is very level-headed and will remain calm in an emergency situation.
In a situation where other people might get hysterical, he has poise.
Victory will work more efficiently if given space and time to be alone.
He would rather not be surrounded by people constantly.
In a relationship, he will show his love by the things he does rather than by the things he says.
Saying "I love you" is not a needed routine because he feels his mate should already know.
The only exception to this is if he has logically concluded that it is best for his mate to hear him express his love verbally.
Victory is not subject to emotional appeals.
If someone is selling a product to him, they will need to present only the facts.
They should present them from a standpoint of his sound judgment.
He will not be taken in by an emotional story about someone else.
He will meet emergencies without getting hysterical and he will always ask "Is this best for me?"
People that write their letters in an average height and average size are moderate in their ability to interact socially.
According to the data input, Victory doesn't write too large or too small, indicating a balanced ability to be social and interact with others.
Victory will demand respect and will expect others to treat him with honor and dignity.
Victory believes in his ideas and will expect other people to also respect them.
He has a lot of pride.
Victory will be candid and direct when expressing his opinion.
He will tell them what he thinks if they ask for it, whether they like it or not.
So, if they don't really want his opinion, don't ask for it!
In reference to Victory's mental abilities, he has a very investigating and creating mind.
He investigates projects rapidly because he is curious about many things.
He gets involved in many projects that seem good at the beginning, but he soon must slow down and look at all the angles.
He probably gets too many things going at once.
When Victory slows down, then he becomes more creative than before.
Since it takes time to be creative, he must slow down to do it.
He then decides what projects he has time to finish.
Thus he finishes at a slower pace than when he started the project.
He has the best of two kinds of minds. One is the quick investigating mind.
The other is the creative mind. His mind thinks quick and rapidly in the investigative mode.
He can learn quicker, investigate more, and think faster.
Victory can then switch into his low gear.
When he is in the slower mode, he can be creative, remember longer and stack facts in a logical manner.
He is more logical this way and can climb mental mountains with a much better grip.
Victory is a practical person whose goals are planned, practical, and down to earth.
This is typical of people with normal healthy self-esteem.
He needs to visualize the end of a project before he starts.
He finds joy in anticipation and planning.
Notice that I said he plans everything he is going to do, that doesn't necessarily mean things go as planned. Victory basically feels good about himself.
He has a positive self-esteem which contributes to his success.
He feels he has the ability to achieve anything he sets his mind to.
However, he sets his goals using practicality-- not too "out of reach".
He has enough self-confidence to leave a bad situation, yet, he will not take great risks, as they relate to his goals.
A good esteem is one key to a happy life.
Although there is room for improvement in the confidence category, his self-perception is better than average.
Victory is very self-sufficient. He is trying not to need anyone.
He is capable of making it on his own.
He probably wants and enjoys people, but he doesn't "need" them.
He can be a loner.

Team JBI

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Q & A Question

If they could redo this case from the start again, what would they do.

Question:

"Is there something you wish had been done differently from the start of the investigation that perhaps could have yielded a conviction?"

MarkBeckner:

"Not me personally, as I did not get involved until September 1997, about 9 months after the murder. I was brought on to try to get the investigation back on course, which I think we did a pretty good job of once we got some DAs involved who worked with us rather than against us. As for the police department in general, I wish we would have done a much better job of securing and controlling the crime scene on day one. We also should have separated John and Patsy and gotten full statements from them that day. Letting them go was a big mistake, as they soon lawyered up and we did not get to formally interview them again until May of 1997, five months after their daughter was murdered. Had the police found the body early on, as they should have, I believe the initial course of the investigation would have gone differently, but who really knows at this point. We also did a poor job of protecting the crime scene. It was sort of like a perfect storm that day that set things off in the wrong direction. It was and still is the only case of its kind as far as we or the FBI knows of, so its not like anyone had experience with this sort of thing either."

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The case

Around 5:52 a.m. the morning after  Christmas Day, 1996, Patsy Ramsey found  a ransom note on the family's back  staircase demanding $118,000 for her six- year-old daughter, JonBenet, and called  911. Later that day, John Ramsey  discovered JonBenet's body in a spare  room in the basement. She had been  strangled with a garrote, and her mouth  had been bound with duct tape.

Sketchbook Project

Everybody can use a sketchbook to honour  and develop own creativity. Keeping a  visual diary does not only help you to enjoy  your life more, changes may even go much  further than that. A sketchbook is a  personal creative resource and often  develops into a place to re-create yourself.  Learn here more about the pleasures a  sketchbook can give.

http://www.jonbenetinvestigation.com/index.htm

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Q & A Question

Question:

"Regarding JonBenet's murder: Is there any information not publicly available that, in your estimation, would be considered "huge" to followers of the case? If so, do you suspect that any of this information could become publicly available in our lifetimes?"

MarkBeckner:

"There is some information that is not yet public, but nothing that would be considered huge or definitive. Personally, I would like to see the grand jury transcripts and evidence released to the public so that all the information could be known. Not sure that will happen in my lifetime."

Open bible found on John Ramsey desk

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Q & A Question

Question:

"Was the handwritten note tested for DNA/fingerprints? And do the police think the murderer sat in the house and wrote a long winded note on the Ramseys note pad before attempting to kidnap her. obviously didnt do it after if it was a criminal as they would have just got out. Also how might the "kidnapper" have known how much john ramseys bonus was. thanks."

MarkBeckner:

"Yes, of course it was. The only fingerprint on the note was one belonging to the document examiner at the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI). On the notepad from which the note came from, the only fingerprints on the pad belonged to the CBI agent, the sergeant with the police department who took the pad into custody, and Patsy Ramsey. No, we do not believe a someone wrote the note prior to attempting to kidnap JonBenet. Neither the PD or the FBI believe this was ever a kidnapping. It was a murder that someone tried to stage as a kidnapping."

The Sketchbook Project

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Q & A Question

Question:

"What is your opinion of Lou Smit and his involvement and conclusions in this case?"

MarkBeckner:

"Lou was a nice man and very religious. I believe he became emotionally involved with the family and in my opinion this clouded his judgement to the point where he could not accept the possibility that the family was involved. I base this on numerous conversations I had with him. Originally, I wanted to rely on some of Lou's conclusions based on the evidence he was telling me about. More than once, I followed up on the evidence he was using to support his belief and I found it not to be accurate."

 
Andrew Louis "Lou" Smit[1] (April 14, 1935 – August 11, 2010) was an American police detective in Colorado Springs, Colorado who worked on a number of notable cases before his retirement in 1996, and then was recalled to work on the murder of JonBenét Ramsey. Smit was portrayed by Kris Kristofferson in the television miniseries Perfect Murder, Perfect Town.

Having tried various businesses and failing, Smit prayed for a solution and saw as an answer from God a call he received from a cousin who served on the Colorado Springs Department suggesting that he apply to serve.[2] Smit fell just short of the department's minimum height of five feet and nine inches, but was able to join the force in 1966 after he had his cousin hit him over the skull with a nightstick, allowing him to meet the height minimum when he was remeasured the following day with the bump on his head.[3] Working his way up to the rank of detective, Smit was involved in a number of notable cases including the conviction of spree killer Freddie Glenn for a series of murders, including the 1975 killing of Karen Grammer, younger sister of actor Kelsey Grammer.[4] In 1995, he arrested Robert Charles Browne for the 1991 murder of Heather Dawn Church. Church's father had been one of the original suspects in his daughter's murder, but Browne ultimately confessed to a total of 48 murders and was sentenced to life imprisonment. Smit retired in 1996 from the El Paso County, Colorado Sheriff's department where he had served as captain of detectives.[3]

In 1997, three months after the murder of JonBenét Ramsey, Smit was asked by the district attorney's office to come out of retirement to assist with the investigation. While initial suspicions had been that Patsy Ramsey was responsible for the murder and that John Ramsey had been protecting his wife, Smit resigned from the case after 18 months having concluded that the Ramseys were not responsible for the murder and that the Boulder Police Department had been unjustifiably pursuing the Ramseys as suspects despite DNA and other evidence that showed that some other person was responsible for the killing.[3] In his September 1998 resignation letter, Smit stated that "The Ramseys did not do it" and cited "substantial, credible evidence of an intruder and a lack of evidence that the parents are involved".[3] Smit would later work for the Ramsey's in helping establish their innocence and would be portrayed by Kris Kristofferson in a CBS television miniseries based on the case.[3][4]

After the Ramsey case, Smit continued to work on cold cases. As a detective, Smit boasted that he "never lost a homicide case" in a career in which he worked on more than 200 murder cases in which a suspect had been arrested and tried for their crime.[3]

Smit had gone to a doctor in April 2010 after experiencing abdominal pain. After a CAT scan identified a tumor as the cause of the pain, surgeons discovered that the cancer had spread throughout his body and was untreatable.[2] Smit died at age 75 on August 11, 2010, at the Pikes Peak Hospice in Colorado Springs due to colon cancer.[3] John Ramsey came to pray at his bedside shortly before Smit's death.[2] Smit was survived by three daughters, a son and nine grandchildren.[3]

Link to this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Smit

From Court TV's "The System," Lou Smit demonstrates how he would get into the Ramsey basement through a window

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Cold Case

Q & A Question

Question:

"Can you talk about some of the reasons the case has remained open so long?"

MarkBeckner:

"Murder cases typically remain open. This does not mean they are necessarily being actively investigated. Many cases sit in files waiting for new information to reactivate the investigation."