What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?

[Eleanor]

How much money Scotland Yard are spending is entirely irrelevant.  This was a British child who disappeared in a foreign country, the investigation of which was handled very badly.

DCI Redwood and Team then found a number of leads that had not been adequately investigated.  This motivated The PJ to reopen The Investigation at their end.  Or are we contesting these facts?

May it never be said that the disappearance of a British child on foreign soil should ever be ignored.

And if we really want to talk about money, how much do you think it costs to pursue any investigation?  What exactly does any of these investigations achieve?

For me it is simple enough.  No matter who is responsible for the disappearance of that child then it has to be followed.

Or will it only be worth it if The McCanns are responsible?

[Alfred R Jones]

How much money Scotland Yard are spending is entirely irrelevant.  This was a British child who disappeared in a foreign country, the investigation of which was handled very badly.

DCI Redwood and Team then found a number of leads that had not been adequately investigated.  This motivated The PJ to reopen The Investigation at their end.  Or are we contesting these facts?

May it never be said that the disappearance of a British child on foreign soil should ever be ignored.

And if we really want to talk about money, how much do you think it costs to pursue any investigation?  What exactly does any of these investigations achieve?

For me it is simple enough.  No matter who is responsible for the disappearance of that child then it has to be followed.

Or will it only be worth it if The McCanns are responsible?

If the "Sceptics" really believed the Met were chasing the McCanns then I suspect money would be no object at all. But, those complaining of the money being spent have obviously at least cottoned on to the fact that the Met aren't chasing the McCanns at all hence their faux-distress at the amount of"taxpayers money" being spent.  The "poor taxpayer" has taken the place of the little kiddies and old age pensioners that the "sceptics" used to be so concerned about, you know the ones that McCanns forced into parting with their pocket money and pensions for the Fund.

[Eleanor]

If the "Sceptics" really believed the Met were chasing the McCanns then I suspect money would be no object at all. But, those complaining of the money being spent have obviously at least cottoned on to the fact that the Met aren't chasing the McCanns at all hence their faux-distress at the amount of"taxpayers money" being spent.  The "poor taxpayer" has taken the place of the little kiddies and old age pensioners that the "sceptics" used to be so concerned about, you know the ones that McCanns forced into parting with their pocket money and pensions for the Fund.

Oh, come on, Love.  The Sceptics would be over the moon and cheering on Scotland Yard if they thought that Scotland Yard were after The Mccanns.  Chuck in another 10 Million Pounds.  Who would care about that then?

[stephen25000]

How much money Scotland Yard are spending is entirely irrelevant.  This was a British child who disappeared in a foreign country, the investigation of which was handled very badly.

DCI Redwood and Team then found a number of leads that had not been adequately investigated.  This motivated The PJ to reopen The Investigation at their end.  Or are we contesting these facts?

May it never be said that the disappearance of a British child on foreign soil should ever be ignored.

And if we really want to talk about money, how much do you think it costs to pursue any investigation?  What exactly does any of these investigations achieve?

For me it is simple enough.  No matter who is responsible for the disappearance of that child then it has to be followed.

Or will it only be worth it if The McCanns are responsible?

So Eleanor, if you were in control of the treasury purse strings, would you  sanction £10,000,00 on every missing person in the UK ?

[Eleanor]

So Eleanor, if you were in control of the treasurey purse strings, would you  sanction £10,000,00 on every missing person in the UK ?

Most Missing Child Cases  in The UK are adequately investigated, and mostly brought to some sort of conclusion.  They are not dealt with by a bunch of corrupt cowboys.

So your question is spurious as usual.

Oh, sorry.  Yes I would sanction 10,000,000 Pounds if I thought it was necessary.  But then I would, wouldn't I.

[stephen25000]

Most Missing Child Cases  in The UK are adequately investigated, and mostly brought to some sort of conclusion.  They are not dealt with by a bunch of corrupt cowboys.

So your question is spurious as usual.

Oh, sorry.  Yes I would sanction 10,000,000 Pounds if I thought it was necessary.  But then I would, wouldn't I.

The question is 'spurious' merely because you don't like it.

'Most Missing Child Cases  in The UK are adequately investigated'

How would you know that ???

So Eleanor, would you care to guess how many missing people there are in the UK ?

and how many of them are deserving of £10,000,000 ???

I was also referring to all missing people in the UK, not just children

[Eleanor]

The question is 'spurious' merely because you don't like it.

'Most Missing Child Cases  in The UK are adequately investigated'

How would you know that ???

So Eleanor, would you care to guess how many missing people there are in the UK ?

and how many of them are deserving of £10,000,000 ???

I was also referring to all missing people in the UK, not just children

What has Redwood achieved, Stephen?

[stephen25000]

What has Redwood achieved, Stephen?

As far as I am concerned.

NOTHING.

[Mr Gray]

The question is 'spurious' merely because you don't like it.

'Most Missing Child Cases  in The UK are adequately investigated'

How would you know that ???

So Eleanor, would you care to guess how many missing people there are in the UK ?

and how many of them are deserving of £10,000,000 ???

I was also referring to all missing people in the UK, not just children

Could you tell us how many stranger abductions there were last year

[stephen25000]

Could you tell us how many stranger abductions there were last year

Please enlighten us Dave with the evidence of abduction in this case Dave.

and Dave, I was referring to missing people.

[Mr Gray]

Please enlighten us Dave with the evidence of abduction in this case Dave.

and Dave, I was referring to missing people.

Do you have such a poor memory...I started a thread on it and discussed at length

[Eleanor]

Okay.  Stop now.  Back On Topic.

[Lyall]

It's been a bad week for those with involvement in both Operations Grange and Oxborough, Mark Williams-Thomas has been exposing both Hamish Campbell and Alison Saunders (current DPP, who prosecuted Barry George) in the Mirror.

Jill Dando secret files revealed: Murder defence team never saw key profiles
Top lawyer calls for inquiry
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jill-dando-secret-files-revealed-5437428

It's never too late for justice.

[Brietta]

It's been a bad week for those with involvement in both Operations Grange and Oxborough, Mark Williams-Thomas has been exposing both Hamish Campbell and Alison Saunders (current DPP, who prosecuted Barry George) in the Mirror.

Jill Dando secret files revealed: Murder defence team never saw key profiles
Top lawyer calls for inquiry
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jill-dando-secret-files-revealed-5437428

It's never too late for justice.

Funny you should say that as it is also the sentiment expressed regarding a cold case murder which took place ten years ago

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One police insider said: "Whoever committed this horrendous killing - and kept it a secret for 10 years - must remember there is no expiry date on justice."


That "there is no expiry date on Justice" is something worth remembering when discussing Madeleine McCann. 
Also worth bearing in mind is the following from the same article as it applies to this case, cases in general, but in particular Madeleine McCann's case.

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"There is a risk of prejudicing fresh prosecutions by commenting further on individual cases or providing details on how a particular case is being dealt with.

"It would therefore be inappropriate to comment further at this time."

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/crime-courts/cold-case-hopes-of-solving-mystery-of-emma-caldwells-death.122087774

[Mr Gray]

It's been a bad week for those with involvement in both Operations Grange and Oxborough, Mark Williams-Thomas has been exposing both Hamish Campbell and Alison Saunders (current DPP, who prosecuted Barry George) in the Mirror.

Jill Dando secret files revealed: Murder defence team never saw key profiles
Top lawyer calls for inquiry
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jill-dando-secret-files-revealed-5437428

It's never too late for justice.

Never to late for justice in the UK fortunately....Montclair told us that he has never heard of a successful challenge resulting in a miscarriage of justice in Portugal...what does that tell us. In the Uk however people are free to challenge and may be successful...there are a further two points....

Barry George has not been declared innocent ...in his appeal although the judge quashed the verdict because of disputed forensic he stated that even without this George may still have been found guilty. George has already served a prison sentence for a sex crime.

Secondly...every professional makes mistakes. if a mistake WAS made here it would be grossly unfair to use this against an individual without looking at all the cases the individual has been involved in