What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?

[G-Unit]

Yes, very odd that. Who keeps kids old pyjamas 6 years? I wouldn't keep them 6 months, once grown out of. Would anyone?

Would you even remember what they wore that night anyway? That story stinks IMO.

[pathfinder73]

And Tannerman's child's pyjamas (which he still had six years later) looked nothing like those described by Jane Tanner. Poor Jane. 

Are you sure?



Pink blanket and bottoms match except for the turn ups but Jane mentions those turn-ups in her rog.

"I could really think was, erm, a turn-up of some description.  And I don’t know whether this made it into my statement, but there was, and this is the thing that convinces me it was her, there was, erm, sort of the pyjamas were, there was some sort of, I thought it was a turn-up."

You can see the turn-ups. "turn-up, as I thought it was, I couldn’t think of the colour."

[jassi]

Would you even remember what they wore that night anyway? That story stinks IMO.

SY must know what they are doing. They are, after all, the police force par excellence.

[G-Unit]

SY must know what they are doing. They are, after all, the police force par excellence.

Oh yes, I forgot that  &%&£(+

[Brietta]

Ah yes, and who are they? Sadie's untouchables? Redwood's burglars? Will we ever know?

Hopefully SY and the PJ may be able to gather enough evidence to lay charges ... I think that is normal procedure for police investigations.

[ShiningInLuz]

SY must know what they are doing. They are, after all, the police force par excellence.

SY is the force that dug up the mound in Luz in mid-2014.  It is probable that one Godfrey Barrington Norton was parked on the mound that night.  Norton looks nothing like the Smithman efits or the description in the Smith statements. However, when reviewing GBN as a potential abductor, I concluded that SY was probably unaware that GBN was on the mound and that there was some other reason for it being of interest.

Full details re GBN on my blog.  I think the mound was an own-goal by SY, and that is why I wanted to move on to what else occurred in Redwood's time, to attempt to unravel where he got to before he parked his feet up last Xmas.

[jassi]

I suppose the answer is that we just don't know.
None of these hundreds of so called  leads appear to have come to anything, the mobile traffic seems to have disappeared and the 4 arguidos are no more, if what was posted recently about the time limit having expired.

There might be much activity, we are just not party to it.

[Carana]

I suppose the answer is that we just don't know.
None of these hundreds of so called  leads appear to have come to anything, the mobile traffic seems to have disappeared and the 4 arguidos are no more, if what was posted recently about the time limit having expired.

There might be much activity, we are just not party to it.

When did the time-limit expire? Did I miss something?

[Brietta]

SY is the force that dug up the mound in Luz in mid-2014.  It is probable that one Godfrey Barrington Norton was parked on the mound that night.  Norton looks nothing like the Smithman efits or the description in the Smith statements. However, when reviewing GBN as a potential abductor, I concluded that SY was probably unaware that GBN was on the mound and that there was some other reason for it being of interest.

Full details re GBN on my blog.  I think the mound was an own-goal by SY, and that is why I wanted to move on to what else occurred in Redwood's time, to attempt to unravel where he got to before he parked his feet up last Xmas.

Casting my mind back to events at the time ... Stop the McCann Circus graffiti et al on road signs and walls ... I think SY took what they could of the little that was on offer and did it.  That included digging on the mound.

Given the furore their arrival at the start of the tourist season caused, I hardly think they will reprise the timing of that venture, which suggests to me they have enough to be getting on with.
Whether that is a result of their digs or whether a result of the interviews we may be told in the fullness of time.

No-one is going to be talking in the middle of an active investigation ~ cold case or not ~ and my impression is that the leak at the Portuguese end has been sealed ~ maybe they are using a cross cut shredder instead of a waste bin these days.

Funnily enough I give the present PJ investigators credit for knowing what they are doing with the evidence available to them.  I give the same respect to the SY investigators.

[jassi]

When did the time-limit expire? Did I miss something?

Not sure, but there were some posts on here, maybe last week, about the 8 months time period being up.
 Perhaps the deadline is close approaching, rather than arrived.

[ShiningInLuz]

Casting my mind back to events at the time ... Stop the McCann Circus graffiti et al on road signs and walls ... I think SY took what they could of the little that was on offer and did it.  That included digging on the mound.

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The Circus graffiti appeared after SY had gone.  The 'parents killed Maddie' graffiti was the last day of the dig.  The 'Madeleine poster drenched in paint' at the eastern side of Luz, was, I believe, when Gerry returned to Luz around a year after Madeleine disappeared.

As to what was on offer in Luz.  SY has never, to my knowledge, visited the area for a general scout around 5A, around the Smithman sighting area, or, well, to be honest, anything other than when they dug in mid 2014.

Should the residents be pissed off with this?  YES!  SY is playing armchair detective.  Why oh why not visit the crime scene?

The graffiti, whether posted by someone from Luz or otherwise, is a blow underneath the belt.  It is a foul, whoever did it.  It is great media, while it advances the case not one iota.

Andy's legacy out here is just before the digs started.  That is when the UK media was rampant about areas to be dug in Luz.  How did they find out about that?  And before the residents of Luz knew anything about it? 

Then there was the great scene.  Andy flying over Luz in a helicopter.  A helicopter is where one learns nothing about what the situation is like on the ground.  But the cherry on the cake was the Sky News helicopter chasing him.  What?  How did Sky News learn that Andy was going to be surveying Luz from a helicopter and get their own helicopter up into the air at the same time?

Now I hope that Nicola Wall does better.  I am sure that from London she has lots of leads to pursue in the case.  Whether she gets her heels on the ground here, or whether she prefers to look like the mid 2014 farce is up to her.  But personally, I would love to see a small delegation of SY detectives on the ground here.  It would be even better if they engaged with the locals.  There are many open opportunities to progress the McCann case here.

Is she smart enough?  Or in 3 years are we going to see a new DCI in charge of the case when Nicola retires?

[jassi]

The Circus graffiti appeared after SY had gone.  The 'parents killed Maddie' graffiti was the last day of the dig.  The 'Madeleine poster drenched in paint' at the eastern side of Luz, was, I believe, when Gerry returned to Luz around a year after Madeleine disappeared.

As to what was on offer in Luz.  SY has never, to my knowledge, visited the area for a general scout around 5A, around the Smithman sighting area, or, well, to be honest, anything other than when they dug in mid 2014.

Should the residents be pissed off with this?  YES!  SY is playing armchair detective.  Why oh why not visit the crime scene?

The graffiti, whether posted by someone from Luz or otherwise, is a blow underneath the belt.  It is a foul, whoever did it.  It is great media, while it advances the case not one iota.

Andy's legacy out here is just before the digs started.  That is when the UK media was rampant about areas to be dug in Luz.  How did they find out about that?  And before the residents of Luz knew anything about it? 

Then there was the great scene.  Andy flying over Luz in a helicopter.  A helicopter is where one learns nothing about what the situation is like on the ground.  But the cherry on the cake was the Sky News helicopter chasing him.  What?  How did Sky News learn that Andy was going to be surveying Luz from a helicopter and get their own helicopter up into the air at the same time?

Now I hope that Nicola Wall does better.  I am sure that from London she has lots of leads to pursue in the case.  Whether she gets her heels on the ground here, or whether she prefers to look like the mid 2014 farce is up to her.  But personally, I would love to see a small delegation of SY detectives on the ground here.  It would be even better if they engaged with the locals.  There are many open opportunities to progress the McCann case here.

Is she smart enough?  Or in 3 years are we going to see a new DCI in charge of the case when Nicola retires?

But, but, she can't retire - she is the bestest detective ever,  guaranteed never to fail. Vogue said so, or something of that ilk 

[sadie]

Are you sure?



Pink blanket and bottoms match except for the turn ups but Jane mentions those turn-ups in her rog.

"I could really think was, erm, a turn-up of some description.  And I don’t know whether this made it into my statement, but there was, and this is the thing that convinces me it was her, there was, erm, sort of the pyjamas were, there was some sort of, I thought it was a turn-up."

You can see the turn-ups. "turn-up, as I thought it was, I couldn’t think of the colour."

Strange how the pink on white pyjamas in the larger photo suddenly change to pink on blue in the lower photo.

Suddenly, Voila, they match Crechmans long saved pyjamas.

Magick

[faithlilly]

Strange how the pink on white pyjamas in the larger photo suddenly change to pink on blue in the lower photo.

Suddenly, Voila, they match Crechmans long saved pyjamas.

Magick

Indeed. Tanner suggested although she didn't see the child's face she believed it was a girl because of the pink pyjamas. So what are we to think when they turn out to be blue ?

[sadie]

Indeed. Tanner suggested although she didn't see the child's face she believed it was a girl because of the pink pyjamas. So what are we to think when they turn out to be blue ?

Pink on white, not pink on blue. + frills, not horrid orange turn ups.



I think there is plenty of hope for Tannerman still being in the equation