Author Topic: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?  (Read 81946 times)

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stephen25000

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Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2015, 10:38:09 AM »

No need to be rude.

Unless you are privy to SY and the PJ's 'deliberations' you can have no idea that 'nothing has been found' and 'the case has got nowhere'.

No-one knows what has or has not been achieved -  because we are not being kept informed.   Speculation and wishful thinking doesn't count.

The one major achievement by SY that we do know about - because the public WAS informed by SY -  is that they have specifically ruled out 9 people from the case.  i.e. the McCanns and their friends.    The PJ have also eliminated them from the enquiry.

Quite a massive achievement by both police forces IMO - as it is a total reversal of the original decision by the original investigators.

How can you eliminate people from an inquiry, when they don't know how Madeleine disappeared ?

So a massive achievement, HARDLY.

Offline Benice

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2015, 10:54:10 AM »
How can you eliminate people from an inquiry, when they don't know how Madeleine disappeared ?

So a massive achievement, HARDLY.

LOL I keep forgetting that you know better than both SY and the PJ. 

No point in any further discussion while you continue to believe that IMO.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2015, 11:43:18 AM »
LOL I keep forgetting that you know better than both SY and the PJ. 

No point in any further discussion while you continue to believe that IMO.

They have nothing.

No trace of what happened to Madeleine.

If you believe otherwise, then you are living a fantasy.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2015, 08:21:07 PM by John »

Offline Brietta

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2015, 07:59:11 PM »
How can you eliminate people from an inquiry, when they don't know how Madeleine disappeared ?

So a massive achievement, HARDLY.

Indeed and a problem shared by the initial investigation was that they didn't know how Madeleine McCann had disappeared.

Unfortunately the senior officers working on her case addressed the problem by deciding in the early hours of her disappearance that her parents were responsible in some way with the assistance of their friends.

With her parents in the frame no-one at the heart of the investigation was interested in looking for the actual perpetrator of the crime committed against Madeleine McCann.

The new investigation by the PJ and SY have picked up the cold trail left by the initial investigators and have had to address the information ignored by them because it did not lead to Madeleine's parents.

The phone pings are one example and the crèche records another.

If this investigation does not lead to some answers about what may have happened to Madeleine McCann ... it won't be for the want of trying ... if the same could have been said of the 2007 investigation perhaps we might not be where we are today.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline slartibartfast

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2015, 08:03:14 PM »
Indeed and a problem shared by the initial investigation was that they didn't know how Madeleine McCann had disappeared.

Unfortunately the senior officers working on her case addressed the problem by deciding in the early hours of her disappearance that her parents were responsible in some way with the assistance of their friends.

With her parents in the frame no-one at the heart of the investigation was interested in looking for the actual perpetrator of the crime committed against Madeleine McCann.

The new investigation by the PJ and SY have picked up the cold trail left by the initial investigators and have had to address the information ignored by them because it did not lead to Madeleine's parents.

The phone pings are one example and the crèche records another.

If this investigation does not lead to some answers about what may have happened to Madeleine McCann ... it won't be for the want of trying ... if the same could have been said of the 2007 investigation perhaps we might not be where we are today.

So without any real evidence, to decide early on that the McCanns should be investigated was wrong but to decide early on the Madeleine was abducted was right.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2015, 08:11:40 PM »
What has he achieved?

Hmm..  One thing he brought to the publics attention was the massively embarrassing e-fits which team McCann sought to keep hidden from public scrutiny for over five years.   8@??)(

He has also spent a shitload of taxpayers money and has sod all to show for it.  Nil ponts.   @)(++(*

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Offline Brietta

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2015, 08:17:46 PM »
So without any real evidence, to decide early on that the McCanns should be investigated was wrong but to decide early on the Madeleine was abducted was right.

They knew nothing about dogs and misinterpreted the information given.

They nothing about DNA analysis and misinterpreted the information given.

They knew nothing about looking for missing children and misinterpreted the information given.

**snip
The Home Office agency, which describes itself as 'part of the police service', aims to improve police use of information, evidence and science and to support operations.
It is understood to have provided Portuguese police with a 'checklist' of how to proceed.
A spokesman said last night: 'In disappearance cases it is common for the NPIA to advise officers to consider the possibility of the involvement of family and close friends.
'This is good practice for investigating cases. The NPIA gave similar generic advice to Portuguese police.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250084/How-letter-UK-police-turned-spotlight-Kate-Gerry-McCann.html#ixzz3RepuElrk

They were given the "generic advice" from the Home Office when it became obvious that they were floundering without a clue about conducting a missing child inquiry ... quite obviously ... they did not have a clue.

But they couldn't even follow the simple guidelines properly.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2015, 08:20:21 PM »
What has he achieved?

Hmm..  One thing he brought to the publics attention was the massively embarrassing e-fits which team McCann sought to keep hidden from public scrutiny for over five years.   8@??)(

He has also spent a shitload of taxpayers money and has sod all to show for it.  Nil ponts.   @)(++(*

Count the Portuguese and British police into that equation ... maybe someday we will find out why they all 'sat' on them.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2015, 08:30:33 PM »
What has he achieved?

Hmm..  One thing he brought to the publics attention was the massively embarrassing e-fits which team McCann sought to keep hidden from public scrutiny for over five years.   8@??)(

He has also spent a shitload of taxpayers money and has sod all to show for it.  Nil ponts.   @)(++(*


he has publically declared that the McCanns are not suspects...that's the main reason there is so much hostility towards him from some on here

stephen25000

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Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2015, 09:00:00 PM »

he has publically declared that the McCanns are not suspects...that's the main reason there is so much hostility towards him from some on here

Wrong Dave.

He found zip, and £10,000,000 of taxpayers money is down the drain, which should have been spent on cases where there was a chance of apprehending the criminals.

stephen25000

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Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2015, 11:42:54 AM »
What has Redwood achieved in this case ?
« Last Edit: February 15, 2015, 08:30:33 PM by John »

Offline Angelo222

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2015, 11:57:57 AM »
What has Redwood achieved in this case ?

If he had achieved anything worthwhile you can bet you're bottom dollar the public would have heard about it before he retired. Maybe he will head the new McCann investigative team when it is formed.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2015, 12:02:46 PM »
If he had achieved anything worthwhile you can bet you're bottom dollar the public would have heard about it before he retired. Maybe he will head the new McCann investigative team when it is formed.

Now there's a thought.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2015, 12:04:29 PM »
If he had achieved anything worthwhile you can bet you're bottom dollar the public would have heard about it before he retired. Maybe he will head the new McCann investigative team when it is formed.

hes too professional to comment at this stage...perhaps you think he would have written abook about an ongoing investigation

Offline Angelo222

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2015, 12:28:44 PM »
hes too professional to comment at this stage...perhaps you think he would have written abook about an ongoing investigation

That thought did cross my mind Dave.   8)-)))
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