Author Topic: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?  (Read 82024 times)

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Offline Anna

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #135 on: February 16, 2015, 12:53:39 PM »
Although I find you the fairer of the mods who are supportive of the McCanns I think you are being slightly disingenuous to claim you do not delete according to your beliefs.

Just a few moments  ago a post in which I called Brietta a 'rampant hypocrite' was deleted even though the post was 'on topic' yet a post by sadie in which she all but called me a liar has remained in place for over 12 hours. Is that fair ?

Please don't misunderstand me. I really don't give a tinker's cuss what people on this board think of me, my opinion or indeed what they post but please don't pay lip service to moderating fairness when it is clear to all who read here that there is nothing fair about the way both yourself and Eleanor moderate.

I have only been on line a short time, Faith and have not examined all posts yet, but you are all aware of the rules of posting insults.
 I try to be as fair as one can be and I do realise that we do not know who is responsible for Maddie's disappearance.
I try to research all options, but just like the rest of you there are still uncertainties in my mind, also. I do not delete because of the side of fence you are on, but from the rules. I am sorry that I can not please everyone.
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Offline Anna

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #136 on: February 16, 2015, 01:08:22 PM »
And now.........................................Topic and yes I will be deleting some posts
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
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Offline Albertini

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #137 on: February 16, 2015, 02:06:31 PM »
Plus let's look at what redwood himself has said  he's achieved:

DCI Redwood (4.7.2013): “Well, as we have worked carefully over the last sort of two years, through that review process, we have now processed some 30,000 documents”.

DCI Redwood (three months later, 4.10.2103): “The total number of documents we have to go through is 39,148, of which we have processed 21,614 so far”

So in a 3 month period he's managed to process then unprocess nearly 8400 documents.

Which is why I don't take everything he says at full face value.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #138 on: February 16, 2015, 02:15:23 PM »
Plus let's look at what redwood himself has said  he's achieved:

DCI Redwood (4.7.2013): “Well, as we have worked carefully over the last sort of two years, through that review process, we have now processed some 30,000 documents”.

DCI Redwood (three months later, 4.10.2103): “The total number of documents we have to go through is 39,148, of which we have processed 21,614 so far”

So in a 3 month period he's managed to process then unprocess nearly 8400 documents.

Which is why I don't take everything he says at full face value.
LOL, so you think he was lying about the number of documents processed now do you?

Offline Albertini

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #139 on: February 16, 2015, 02:18:11 PM »
LOL, so you think he was lying about the number of documents processed now do you?

Lol no I'm just repeating what he himself said.

Can you explain this discrepancy?

Offline Anna

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #140 on: February 16, 2015, 03:07:01 PM »
Plus let's look at what redwood himself has said  he's achieved:

DCI Redwood (4.7.2013): “Well, as we have worked carefully over the last sort of two years, through that review process, we have now processed some 30,000 documents”.

DCI Redwood (three months later, 4.10.2103): “The total number of documents we have to go through is 39,148, of which we have processed 21,614 so far”

So in a 3 month period he's managed to process then unprocess nearly 8400 documents.

Which is why I don't take everything he says at full face value.

So they started with ?????? in 2011
They processed 30,000 over 2 years by 4.10.2013
which left ?????

Then a new statement
They had left ????? from above
3 months later
They still had left to process, 39,148, of which we have processed 21,614 so far”


So the original figure was 69,148?


Please correct me if I have misunderstood your post, which I very possibly have.

Don't forget there were new documents coming in for processing also
« Last Edit: February 16, 2015, 03:56:44 PM by Anna »
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Offline jassi

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #141 on: February 16, 2015, 03:18:03 PM »
Not very clear, is he?

My interpretation is that the first time he didn't really have a clue about the true number, hence his use of 'some 30,000'.

The second time, he has checked and been told 39,614 in total, with 21,614 processed.
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
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Or maybe not -

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Offline Anna

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #142 on: February 16, 2015, 03:37:11 PM »
Not very clear, is he?

My interpretation is that the first time he didn't really have a clue about the true number, hence his use of 'some 30,000'.

The second time, he has checked and been told 39,614 in total, with 21,614 processed.

Yes of course, jassi
but that was three months later and with a lot more manpower they could have processed that 21,000 from what they had left from two years previously processed which would have been 39,614..... I think.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #143 on: February 16, 2015, 06:00:44 PM »
Rock solid evidence would exonerate them from suspicion and eliminate them from the enquiry forever.

You're trying the semantic argument without going near the core points.

I knew that would come from at least one supporter of the group.

it appears to me that they are not under suspicion and they have been eliminated from the enquiry
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Offline Brietta

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #144 on: February 16, 2015, 08:51:31 PM »



I think there is something perverse about the inability to understand that time has moved on. 

It is not going to go full circle and return to 2007 just so that the investigative mistakes made then can be repeated in 2015.

I have no idea how far down the road the PJ and SY investigation has managed to go ... but one thing I am certain of is that had the scoping exercise turned up any evidence linking the Drs McCann and/or their friends to Madeleine McCann's disappearance ... they would not now be investigating people in Portugal as a 'smokescreen' ... when they could very, very easily have made arrests in Britain.

Very simple to make arrangements with the Portuguese authorities to have prosecutions here ... or to arrange extradition to Portugal to have prosecutions there.

To think otherwise defies logic.

If it gives you and others some hope, fine by me ... no skin off my nose as the saying goes.

However while you are hoping for that denouement ... don't forget the little girl at the centre of this, and hold out some hope for her too.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2015, 12:01:41 AM by Eleanor »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Angelo222

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #145 on: February 17, 2015, 02:27:20 PM »
So let's see, what has he achieved for his £10m?  Sweet FA!!
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

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Alfred R Jones

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Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #146 on: February 17, 2015, 02:30:49 PM »
So let's see, what has he achieved for his £10m?  Sweet FA!!
Please could you direct me to the conclusions of this investigation - you seem to know them already.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2015, 02:35:50 PM by Alfred R Jones »

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #147 on: February 17, 2015, 02:44:50 PM »
O mods I beseech thee; leave this link up for at least 12 hours. Ref the number of documents.
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stephen25000

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Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #148 on: February 17, 2015, 03:53:58 PM »
Please could you direct me to the conclusions of this investigation - you seem to know them already.

Well for a start have SY identified what crime took place?

The answer of course is NO.

Now a connection to the production of alcohol might be called for.

Offline Angelo222

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #149 on: February 17, 2015, 03:59:54 PM »
Please could you direct me to the conclusions of this investigation - you seem to know them already.

Simple, there are none!  No conclusions, no Maddie, no collar, nothing except for a big fat taxpayers bill for £10m which even Redwood won't be around to justify!!  That is unless the Public Accounts Committee deem an inquiry appropriate?
« Last Edit: February 17, 2015, 04:03:33 PM by Angelo222 »
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!