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Lyall

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Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #210 on: April 01, 2015, 09:41:48 PM »
Never to late for justice in the UK fortunately....Montclair told us that he has never heard of a successful challenge resulting in a miscarriage of justice in Portugal...what does that tell us. In the Uk however people are free to challenge and may be successful...there are a further two points....

Barry George has not been declared innocent ...in his appeal although the judge quashed the verdict because of disputed forensic he stated that even without this George may still have been found guilty. George has already served a prison sentence for a sex crime.

Secondly...every professional makes mistakes. if a mistake WAS made here it would be grossly unfair to use this against an individual without looking at all the cases the individual has been involved in

Problem is a whole series of 'mistakes' were made in George's prosecution.

Definitely wasn't English justice's finest hour.

And "declared innocent" or not Barry would have got his compensation but for the Labour government changing the law.

Prior convictions were not admissible at the time of this first trial. But the government also changed that law in time for the second trial.

Do you support those changes?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #211 on: April 01, 2015, 09:58:22 PM »
Problem is a whole series of 'mistakes' were made in George's prosecution.

Definitely wasn't English justice's finest hour.

And "declared innocent" or not Barry would have got his compensation but for the Labour government changing the law.

Prior convictions were not admissible at the time of this first trial. But the government also changed that law in time for the second trial.

Do you support those changes?

As far as I am concerned Uk justice is one of the fairest in the world...what do you think of montclairs admission that there are NO miscarriages of justice in portugal

Lyall

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Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #212 on: April 01, 2015, 10:13:22 PM »
As far as I am concerned Uk justice is one of the fairest in the world...what do you think of montclairs admission that there are NO miscarriages of justice in portugal

What was the context of that statement? I didn't see the discussion.

UK justice will be a lot fairer when Barry gets his compo (which he will eventually).

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #213 on: April 01, 2015, 10:22:58 PM »
There are no miscarriages of justice in Portugal according to Montclair..no context that's it....I'm sure Montclair will confirm

Lyall

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Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #214 on: April 01, 2015, 10:32:09 PM »
There are no miscarriages of justice in Portugal according to Montclair..no context that's it....I'm sure Montclair will confirm

Hmm there must have been context. But I must admit I'm no expert on Portugal's justice system.

Ours is far from perfect, davel. There may be a procedure in cases where wrongful conviction is claimed, but it takes way too long. Plus in Barry's case it wasn't only that two appeals were needed (two are needed in most cases I believe) but they even tried to convict him again after the second was successful (and kept him in prison for another 8 1/2 months). These are areas where our system goes badly wrong.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #215 on: April 01, 2015, 10:36:16 PM »
Hmm there must have been context. But I must admit I'm no expert on Portugal's justice system.

Ours is far from perfect, davel. There may be a procedure in cases where wrongful conviction is claimed, but it takes way too long. Plus in Barry's case it wasn't only that two appeals were needed (two are needed in most cases I believe) but they even tried to convict him again after the second was successful (and kept him in prison for another 8 1/2 months). These are areas where our system goes badly wrong.
simple question to Montclair..are there any miscarriages of justice in Portugal...answer no...that was the context.. I couldn't believe it either...

George may be innocent...but again do not portray him as some innocent..he has  a history of sexual assault against women and has served a prison sentence

Lyall

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Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #216 on: April 01, 2015, 10:59:38 PM »
simple question to Montclair..are there any miscarriages of justice in Portugal...answer no...that was the context.. I couldn't believe it either...

George may be innocent...but again do not portray him as some innocent..he has  a history of sexual assault against women and has served a prison sentence

Alison Saunders definitely wants you on her juries. Prior convictions were previously excluded for a reason.

Anyway check out tomorrow's Mirror. Williams-Thomas is going to tell us who was really guilty.

(... maybe)

Lyall

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Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #217 on: April 01, 2015, 11:05:41 PM »
Bang on time ?>)()<

Jill Dando's murderer revealed: Crime Watch kill was ordered by Mr Big
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jill-dandos-murderer-revealed-crime-5443440

 &%+((£ Reading...

Offline Eleanor

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #218 on: April 01, 2015, 11:05:57 PM »
Please could we not wander OFF TOPIC.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #219 on: April 01, 2015, 11:09:35 PM »
Bang on time ?>)()<

Jill Dando's murderer revealed: Crime Watch kill was ordered by Mr Big
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jill-dandos-murderer-revealed-crime-5443440

 &%+((£ Reading...

so if it's in the Mirror..it must be true...how gullible you are

Alfred R Jones

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Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #220 on: April 01, 2015, 11:11:56 PM »
Bang on time ?>)()<

Jill Dando's murderer revealed: Crime Watch kill was ordered by Mr Big
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jill-dandos-murderer-revealed-crime-5443440

 &%+((£ Reading...
What are MWT's thoughts regarding the McCanns' involvement in Madeleine's disappearance?

Offline faithlilly

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #221 on: April 01, 2015, 11:13:45 PM »
What are MWT's thoughts regarding the McCanns' involvement in Madeleine's disappearance?

A few years back he was in the 'woke and wandered' camp now no idea.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Lyall

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Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #222 on: April 01, 2015, 11:13:50 PM »
so if it's in the Mirror..it must be true...how gullible you are

Nah, but it's cool that someone has taken the trouble to look at the case again.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #223 on: April 01, 2015, 11:28:31 PM »
A few years back he was in the 'woke and wandered' camp now no idea.
I asked for his thoughts on the McCanns' likely involvement in their daughter's disappearance.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #224 on: April 01, 2015, 11:34:35 PM »
What has Redwood achieved in the McCann case ?

Fragged "Tannerman The Abductor" and said Smithman was a person of interest who needed to be identified.
Looked through lots of files and had the Portuguese interview a few folk none of whom has been arrested on any charge to do with the case.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey