Does the Madeleine Fund have a moral obligation to transparency?

[Eleanor]

Please do not mention the name here.

[mercury]

So, you're not aware of anyone associated with the McCanns who have been subjected to online character assassination?  Are you sure?

alot of criticism was deserved, the driving a woman to suicide engineered by your kind (though Im sure you were not involved) is never excusable!!

[G-Unit]

So, you're not aware of anyone associated with the McCanns who have been subjected to online character assassination?  Are you sure?

Positive. I don't gossip and I haven't seen any, except about Brenda Leyland and the 'dossier'

[Benice]

Murdered, in a manner of speaking.  It's called "online character assassination" - now tell me you've no idea what I'm talking about.   &%+((£

IMO anyone who even shows the slightest sympathy or support for the McCanns in public is subjected to a barrage of insults and sneers.  In some cases efforts are made to 'get something on them'.    It wouldn't surprise me if some people deliberately choose not to publicly show support for the McCanns because they know they will be bombarded with abuse.  The following are some of the people who have been subjected to this treatment - on line if not personally.

DCI Redwood
Summers and Swan
Jim Gamble
Alan Pike,
Lorraine Kelly
Dr Sharon Leal
Phil McCann
Brian Kennedy
Clarence Mitchell

and of course Martin Brunt - who in some sceptics eyes indirectly supported the McCanns because of his visit to Brenda Leyland.

I'm sure there are many more.

[mercury]

IMO anyone who even shows the slightest sympathy or support for the McCanns in public is subjected to a barrage of insults and sneers.  In some cases efforts are made to 'get something on them'.    It wouldn't surprise me if some people deliberately choose not to publicly show support for the McCanns because they know they will be bombarded with abuse.  The following are some of the people who have been subjected to this treatment - on line if not personally.

DCI Redwood
Summers and Swan
Jim Gamble
Alan Pike,
Lorraine Kelly
Dr Sharon Leal
Phil McCann
Brian Kennedy
Clarence Mitchell

and of course Martin Brunt - who in some sceptics eyes indirectly supported the McCanns because of his visit to Brenda Leyland.

I'm sure there are many more.

Valid Reasons are given most of the time, and please do not dismiss  the onslaught on the "asking questions brigade" , you know, we are mentally ill or paedos or involved  eg!

[G-Unit]

IMO anyone who even shows the slightest sympathy or support for the McCanns in public is subjected to a barrage of insults and sneers.  In some cases efforts are made to 'get something on them'.    It wouldn't surprise me if some people deliberately choose not to publicly show support for the McCanns because they know they will be bombarded with abuse.  The following are some of the people who have been subjected to this treatment - on line if not personally.

DCI Redwood
Summers and Swan
Jim Gamble
Alan Pike,
Lorraine Kelly
Dr Sharon Leal
Phil McCann
Brian Kennedy
Clarence Mitchell

and of course Martin Brunt - who in some sceptics eyes indirectly supported the McCanns because of his visit to Brenda Leyland.

I'm sure there are many more.

Both sides have a lunatic fringe who get abusive - The PJ have been abused online and in the UK press, for example. I have seen abuse by supporters on Twitter which is disgusting and I have seen similar abuse by doubters.

[Alfred R Jones]

Positive. I don't gossip and I haven't seen any, except about Brenda Leyland and the 'dossier'

I find that very hard to believe.  Are you familiar with Tony Bennett and his output?

[mercury]

I find that very hard to believe.  Are you familiar with Tony Bennett and his output?

Sorry to butt in (again when not spoken to) but Ive noticed you and others have used this board  to sound off about grievances of things happening elsewhere whilst at the same time managing to conflate disparate groups and tar all with  same brush, thats propaganda in my eyes, why do it?  Its dishonest and offensive. tbh

[G-Unit]

I find that very hard to believe.  Are you familiar with Tony Bennett and his output?

Are you calling me a liar Alfred? I do hope not. I am familiar with Tony Bennett's activities and opinions. I don't agree with either his opinions or his methods, but he doesn't, as far as I know, make disgusting abusive or threatening personal comments like those of 'the lunatic fringes'.

[Alfred R Jones]

Are you calling me a liar Alfred? I do hope not. I am familiar with Tony Bennett's activities and opinions. I don't agree with either his opinions or his methods, but he doesn't, as far as I know, make disgusting abusive or threatening personal comments like those of 'the lunatic fringes'.

You do realise it's possible to engage in character assassination without being disgusting or abusive don't you?  Tony Bennett is a master of the art.  He "researches" individuals and draws rather erm...eccentric conclusions about them which he then publishes on the internet.  Check out his work on Murat, Murat's son, And many, many others associated with the McCanns.  This is what I am talking about, not ranting personal threats, as I'm you were well aware.

[G-Unit]

You do realise it's possible to engage in character assassination without being disgusting or abusive don't you?  Tony Bennett is a master of the art.  He "researches" individuals and draws rather erm...eccentric conclusions about them which he then publishes on the internet.  Check out his work on Murat, Murat's son, And many, many others associated with the McCanns.  This is what I am talking about, not ranting personal threats, as I'm you were well aware.

He's brave (or foolish) enough to put his name to what he does, I'm not. I didn't know Murat had a son? I don't think any character assassination by anyone on the internet is effective myself. As some are always saying, nobody cares what people are saying on internet forums. I haven't seen him doing that, but I haven't seen everything he's done I guess. I have to say I've seen some eccentricity on here in my short time as a member.

[mercury]

Murat wasnt "associated" with the Mccanns but DO agree Bennets onslaught on him was bordering on the obsessive

[Alfred R Jones]

Sorry to butt in (again when not spoken to) but Ive noticed you and others have used this board  to sound off about grievances of things happening elsewhere whilst at the same time managing to conflate disparate groups and tar all with  same brush, thats propaganda in my eyes, why do it?  Its dishonest and offensive. tbh

Lest you forget we we discussing possible reasons why the McCann Fund would not wish to put the name of their manager in the public domain.  It would be thoroughly disingenuous of anyone to claim that friends, colleagues and supporters of the McCanns do not receive extra special scrutiny in some quarters, often resulting in attempted online character assassination of these individuals.

[mercury]

Lest you forget we we discussing possible reasons why the McCann Fund would not wish to put the name of their manager in the public domain.  It would be thoroughly disingenuous of anyone to claim that friends, colleagues and supporters of the McCanns do not receive extra special scrutiny in some quarters, often resulting in attempted online character assassination of these individuals.

why do you assume the right to to discuss thngs that dont happen on here? take it up where you read it and stop whinging here

oh and PS no one claimed
 that SOME people havent recieved scrutiny
maybe they deserved it too?
similar to your and others' claim that people have as a "hobby" abused the mccanns for eight years, patently untrue and an extremely ridiculous argument

[Alfred R Jones]

why do you assume the right to to discuss thngs that dont happen on here? take it up where you read it and stop whinging here

oh and PS no one claimed
 that SOME people havent recieved scrutiny
maybe they deserved it too?

Am I not allowed to volunteer a reason why the McCann Fund may prefer it if their Fund Manager's name was not publicised?  If you don't like my posts ignore them or report them to the Mods, just quit whingeing about them, it's boring.