Does the Madeleine Fund have a moral obligation to transparency?

[pegasus]

There is nothing in the company's articles about initiating libel cases.

[mercury]

Everything and anything is included Pegasus in the statement about using the monies to bring Madelenes abductor to justice, also the clause about fnancial help to  the family,clever lawyers, cover everything with words

see here

http://findmadeleine.com/about_the_campaign/index.html

[pegasus]

Everything and anything is included Pegasus in the statement about using the monies to bring Madelenes abductor to justice, also the clause about fnancial help to  the family,clever lawyers, cover everything with words

Object 2 (bringing the perp to justice) cannot include initiating libel cases.
And Object 3 (financial help to the family) was certainly removed years ago.
It is an ex-object.

[mercury]

Object 2 (bringing the perp to justice) cannot include initiating libel cases.
And Object 3 (financial help to the family) was certainly removed years ago.
It is an ex-object.

but they can and do argue that Amarals book prevented findng Madelene so monies used in court actions covered (lawyers ways)
also re family financial help
see my edited post with link, its not an ex object, still there
ok reposting link, read under fund objectives

http://findmadeleine.com/about_the_campaign/index.html

[Eleanor]

The general public rely on the MF website to describe what the 2 purposes of the fund are.

So exactly what does The MF Website say?

[pegasus]

but they can and do argue that Amarals book prevented findng Madelene so monies used in court actions covered (lawyers ways)
also re family financial help
see my edited post with link, its not an ex object, still there
ok reposting link

http://findmadeleine.com/about_the_campaign/index.html

Object 3 (financial help to the family) was deleted from the company's documentation at Companies House years ago.

It most definitely is an ex-object.

[mercury]

Object 3 (financial help to the family) was deleted from the company's documentation at Companies House years ago.

It most definitely is an ex-object.

well its still there on the FM webste so, well dunno now, challenge it and smoke  the truth out suppose, bye for now

[pegasus]

well its still there on the FM webste so, well dunno now, challenge it and smoke  the truth out suppose, bye for now

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/FUND_2014.htm
Scroll down to page 3 "The full objects of the Fund are: ...."
As you can see with your own eyes, object 3 is not there.
As I said, object 3 is no more, it is an ex-object

Object 3 ("to provide support including financial assistance to Madeleine's family") was removed by the "Special Resolution: Amendment to Memorandum and Articles" signed by the directors and filed at Company House on 21st Dec 2011.

Ask any of the lawyers on this forum - they will confirm this is true

[G-Unit]

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/FUND_2014.htm
Scroll down to page 3 "The full objects of the Fund are: ...."
As you can see with your own eyes, object 3 is not there.
As I said, object 3 is no more, it is an ex-object

Object 3 ("to provide support including financial assistance to Madeleine's family") was removed by the "Special Resolution: Amendment to Memorandum and Articles" signed by the directors and filed at Company House on 21st Dec 2011.

Ask any of the lawyers on this forum - they will confirm this is true

I'm not a lawyer but I know this is true, they just haven't updated the website with the correct information for some reason. I'd be interested to know why that object was removed. I assume they decided they don't need support any more.

[Alice Purjorick]

I'm not a lawyer but I know this is true, they just haven't updated the website with the correct information for some reason. I'd be interested to know why that object was removed. I assume they decided they don't need support any more.

The trick is to look at "Powers" in the Articles of Association.

[Brietta]

Did Madeleine McCann's parents have a legal obligation to set up a fund for the money donated by people anxious to help?

Did they have a moral obligation to to set up a fund at all?  I think when you think about it ... you will realise the answer to both questions is "no".

If Madeleine's parents had directed donations be paid into a bank account of their choice ... would that have been morally wrong or illegal?

If a group of friends had set up a bank account requesting donations to a fund for Madeleine would that have been morally wrong or illegal?

Not according to the sceptics who have been doing just that and paying into the bank account set up for Mr Amaral.

[mercury]

G Amarals' fund is for one purpose only, paying for legal fees for his court appeal against the Mccanns suing him

To attempt to say this is the same as the No Stone Unturned fund where any monies recieved can be used for any purpose is ridiculous at best

[Brietta]

G Amarals' fund is for one purpose only, paying for legal fees for his court appeal against the Mccanns suing him

To attempt to say this is the same as the No Stone Unturned fund where any monies recieved can be used for any purpose is ridiculous at best

It is indeed ridiculous to make a comparison between both funds since there is absolutely no comparison ... and I am delighted you managed to assimilate that part of my post at least.

The pertinent aspect is that donations to Mr Amaral are paid into a private account ... which is not subject to audit or published accounts.


Quote ...Therefore, his friends decided to open a private bank account, where funds would be kept to pay, whenever necessary and whenever possible, expenses that were presented by Mr Amaral’s lawyer. Projecto Justiça Gonçalo Amaral was born out of solidarity and friendship.

The trial is ongoing, since 2009, nothing has changed, pending final judgment. We continue to accept your donations only into this one bank account and we continue to meet only legal expenses out of that very same account. Unquote


I don't think "expenses that were presented by Mr Amaral’s lawyer" http://www.gofundme.com/legal-defencepjga translates exactly into "one purpose only, paying for legal fees for his court appeal against the Mccanns suing him".

A matter of opinion ... but I think that may cover a relatively wide brief ... but since we will never see accounts, we simply won't know.

[Angelo222]

The Find Madeleine fund was set up to assist in the search for Madeleine but little if any searching has been done since Halligen and Metodo were booted into touch after squandering £ millions.  Instead, Kate McCann has devoted her time and energy in suing all those worth suing who dispute her version of events using the Fund in order to do so.  The Madeleine Fund was never intended to be used in such a way but has morphed into a weapon instead of a search vehicle.

[stephen25000]

Exactly.

The fund is almost all made up of money donated by The Mccanns.  Probably over 99% of it


To be so probing about minuscule amounts is downright surly IMO


And it is only done in order to denigrate The Mccanns.  No other reason




In my book, it is "Well done Kate and Gerry" for raising such colossal amounts

From whom exactly ?

Money which should never have been needed in the first place if they had exercised both common sense and simple application of intelligence.