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Offline Lace

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #45 on: December 10, 2015, 01:58:37 PM »
So,   what are some trying to say here, with the death of this child who had a fall and died during the  night.

Are they saying that Madeleine had a fall as Amaral stated in his book,  but died hours later?   In which case there would be no cadaver scent behind the sofa as Kate did her check at 10 o'clock,  what was that about two hours after leaving the apartment?



For what reason are we having to read about this child?   It has no bearing at all to the Madeleine case.
« Last Edit: December 10, 2015, 02:17:47 PM by Lace »

Offline G-Unit

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #46 on: December 10, 2015, 02:02:15 PM »
Scraping the bottom of the barrel here I am afraid.

Sincere condolences to Chloe's family.  The circumstances of her death have caused them the most extreme trauma, shame their grief is not respected and has instead been turned into a tawdry debating point which in my opinion bears not the slightest relation to the subject under debate.

Does this also apply to articles on abduction which are posted on the forum on a regular basis by some?
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Offline jassi

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #47 on: December 10, 2015, 02:05:06 PM »
So,   what are some trying to say here, with the death of this child who had a fall and died during the  night.

Are they saying that Madeleine had a fall as Amaral stated in his book,  but died hours later?   In which case there would be no cadaver scent behind the sofa as Kate did her check at 10 o'clock,  what was that about two hours after leaving the apartment?

For what reason are we having to read about this child?   It has no bearing at all to the Madeleine case.


You don't have to read about it at all. Just ignore the thread.
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Offline Lace

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #48 on: December 10, 2015, 02:16:15 PM »

You don't have to read about it at all. Just ignore the thread.

Sorry should have worded it better,   why has this sad story of this child been posted here.

Offline Brietta

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #49 on: December 10, 2015, 02:16:56 PM »
The cause of Chloe's death is unknown.

There is not the slightest correlation between her death and that of a child who may subsequently die after suffering a head trauma.

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Her autopsy found Chloe showed early signs of bronchopneumonia on her lungs and sepsis, but she couldn't definitely say this caused or led to her death.
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The fact that she bled from her nose and mouth may indicate other causes of death ... but in any case the tragic circumstances bear no parallels to Madeleine McCann's disappearance ... short of both children were on a family holiday in Portugal.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Angelo222

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #50 on: December 10, 2015, 02:18:53 PM »
So,   what are some trying to say here, with the death of this child who had a fall and died during the  night.

Are they saying that Madeleine had a fall as Amaral stated in his book,  but died hours later?   In which case there would be no cadaver scent behind the sofa as Kate did her check at 10 o'clock,  what was that about two hours after leaving the apartment?

For what reason are we having to read about this child?   It has no bearing at all to the Madeleine case.

So you know what happened to Maddie?  Best tell DCI Wall because she has no idea!!
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #51 on: December 10, 2015, 02:21:25 PM »
Sorry should have worded it better,   why has this sad story of this child been posted here.

Because it is very relevant to the original police investigation which came to the conclusion that Maddie could had died after sustaining a fall onto a tiled floor.  Is that so difficult to comprehend?
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Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #52 on: December 10, 2015, 02:23:27 PM »
That depends on whether a fall is required. In the article posted there seems to be some disagreement between the pathologists as to whether the child's death was related to her fall or not. If a fall is required it could have been one which raised no alarms, just as the child's fall in the article raised no alarms. Such a fall could have taken place at any time.
Yes, and?  Can you describe a scenario in which an injury sustained earlier resulted in death and the need to cover it up, and within the timescales we have to work with?

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Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #53 on: December 10, 2015, 02:24:22 PM »
This thread is about a seemingly healthy child dying unexpectedly for reasons which are unclear. The pathologists didn't agree as to whether her fall contributed or not.
Is there any suggestion of foul play?

Offline Lace

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #54 on: December 10, 2015, 02:24:33 PM »
Because it is very relevant to the original police investigation which came to the conclusion that Maddie could had died after sustaining a fall onto a tiled floor.  Is that so difficult to comprehend?

I do understand Angelo thanks,  but as I said in my previous post how could the same have happened to Madeleine as it did to this child.   If Madeleine had had a blow to the head and died hours later as this child seems to have done then she would have still have been alive when Kate did her check wouldn't she?  They left the house at about 8 and Kate did her check about 10 that's two hours!!!

Offline carlymichelle

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #55 on: December 10, 2015, 02:25:16 PM »
Because it is very relevant to the original police investigation which came to the conclusion that Maddie could had died after sustaining a fall onto a tiled floor.  Is that so difficult to comprehend?

this article seems to have   spooked some wonder why.... 8)-)))

Offline Lace

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #56 on: December 10, 2015, 02:25:26 PM »
So you know what happened to Maddie?  Best tell DCI Wall because she has no idea!!

Yes I do, and so does DCI Wall she was abducted.
« Last Edit: December 10, 2015, 02:29:11 PM by Lace »

Offline Angelo222

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #57 on: December 10, 2015, 02:25:40 PM »
The cause of Chloe's death is unknown.

There is not the slightest correlation between her death and that of a child who may subsequently die after suffering a head trauma.

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Her autopsy found Chloe showed early signs of bronchopneumonia on her lungs and sepsis, but she couldn't definitely say this caused or led to her death.
End Quote

The fact that she bled from her nose and mouth may indicate other causes of death ... but in any case the tragic circumstances bear no parallels to Madeleine McCann's disappearance ... short of both children were on a family holiday in Portugal.

A Portuguese pathologist found she died from a severe head injury following a blow to the back of the head.  That is good enough for me regardless of what a British coroner found much later.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Lace

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #58 on: December 10, 2015, 02:26:39 PM »
this article seems to have   spooked some wonder why.... 8)-)))


What are you talking about,  it has no relevance what so ever to what happened to Madeleine.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #59 on: December 10, 2015, 02:26:53 PM »
Because it is very relevant to the original police investigation which came to the conclusion that Maddie could had died after sustaining a fall onto a tiled floor.  Is that so difficult to comprehend?

anyone who believes that is possible in the timeframe is seriously deluded...as amaral was