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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #150 on: December 10, 2015, 06:12:40 PM »
I have stated the position in crystal clear terms but all you want to do as per usual form is nitpick and obfuscate.

To repeat, an English pathologist has no option but to carry out an autopsy on the body of any British National who dies overseas in unnatural circumstances. To refuse to do so would be highly irregular.

If Madeleine McCann's remains were found in Portugal an autopsy would be undertaken both in Portugal and the UK.  In such circumstances a second autopsy would be both routine and essential!

Depends what the first autopsy found and if histologic specimens and photographs were available....perhaps they weren't in this case

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #151 on: December 10, 2015, 06:14:28 PM »
Madeleine had all day to hit her head, be bitten by a snake with slow acting venom, develop Meningitis, get food poisoning blah blah blah yet there is no evidence to support any such premise and no reason why there would be a need to cover up a death caused by any such premise as far as I can see, so just what point are "sceptics" trying to make here?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #152 on: December 10, 2015, 06:18:52 PM »
She had all day to fall and hit her head. We don't know if there was any reason not to call an ambulance.

Why ever not?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #153 on: December 10, 2015, 06:22:49 PM »
And this would have necessitated a cover up why exactly?

That would be for those who covered up to know Alfred.
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Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #154 on: December 10, 2015, 06:31:07 PM »
That would be for those who covered up to know Alfred.
It is for those proposing the scenario to throw out some possible motives for a cover-up (perhaps with some supporting circumstantial evidence if at all possible) of accidental death caused by a bump on the head earlier in the day.

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Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #155 on: December 10, 2015, 06:34:43 PM »
Wasn't Madeleine in the crèche for the majority of the day prior to her disappearance (certainly it's one of the sticks used to beat her parents with) - so if she'd had an accident and hurt herself would it not have been logged in the crèche accident book?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #156 on: December 10, 2015, 06:44:05 PM »

It's always Time.  Or the lack of that kills these arguments.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #157 on: December 10, 2015, 06:44:23 PM »
in this case a child died...pathologist reported a serious head injury as cause of death....parents deny any such injury happening....so how did the child die...no wonder there was a second PM

Offline Lace

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #158 on: December 10, 2015, 06:49:10 PM »
It's always Time.  Or the lack of that kills these arguments.

There just isn't any time span that would make sense for them to conceal Madeleine's body Eleanor.  They just couldn't have done it.

Offline Angelo222

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #159 on: December 10, 2015, 07:02:23 PM »
Instantly is hardly likely.  She was in bed asleep at 9pm, unless you think Gerry put her back to bed and left her unconscious for Kate to find.  Kate who then hid her body God knows where.

I believe the established fact is that nobody saw her after 5.30pm except her parents and it was they who raised the alarm after 10pm.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #160 on: December 10, 2015, 07:02:52 PM »
There just isn't any time span that would make sense for them to conceal Madeleine's body Eleanor.  They just couldn't have done it.

I know, Lace.  The Sceptics have been trying for nearly nine years, and failing miserably at every turn.  There simply wasn't enough time for any of these theses.

Offline Angelo222

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #161 on: December 10, 2015, 07:10:43 PM »
I don't believe there was a mishap indoors. What works for me and many British detectives who have looked at the disappearance is that she got out and then met with some sort of accident.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #162 on: December 10, 2015, 07:13:58 PM »
There is no instantly in these cases
It takes several hours for the pressure to build up to cause death

Poppycock davel.  A knock on the head can cause instant death.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #163 on: December 10, 2015, 07:16:02 PM »
I don't believe there was a mishap indoors. What works for me and many British detectives who have looked at the disappearance is that she got out and then met with some sort of accident.

But why was her body never found?

Offline Angelo222

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #164 on: December 10, 2015, 07:17:44 PM »
Depends what the first autopsy found and if histologic specimens and photographs were available....perhaps they weren't in this case

Weak answer davel and very uninformed if I might say so.  If Madeleine is found dead a post mortem examination will be mandatory in the UK regardless of any external factors.
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