Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment

[mercury]

Let me recap

It is possible a child can die from a head injury instantly depending on the circumstances, sheesh

[ferryman]

On topic ...

Sometimes tragedies or traumatic events happen for which parents can't, or shouldn't be, blamed.

Madeleine's disappearance is one.

The tragic death of Chloe is another ....

[mercury]

On topic ...

Sometimes tragedies or traumatic events happen for which parents can't, or shouldn't be, blamed.

Madeleine's disappearance is one.

The tragic death of Chloe is another ....

Its not about blame its about facts...can children die from accidents....yes they can and do all the time but several people here have bust their guts to state it is impossible it could have happened to Madeleine

[ferryman]

Its not about blame its about facts...can children die from accidents....yes they can and do all the time but several people here have bust their guts to state it is impossible it could have happened to Madeleine

A glimmer of light, yes, I agree.  It isn't about blame.

The rest of the discussion centres on why people continue to blame the McCanns for what happened to Madeleine.

If they had made different choices a traumatic event might have been avoided.

I think we can surmise they will never make the same choice again.

But they pay a heavy (and enduring) price for the choice they did make.

Isn't it fair to leave it there?

[mercury]

There is a forum rule that states it is a fact and evidence based forum...but so many people are posting beliefs as facts and nothng is done about it.

It is the "disappearance" of Madeleine Mccann and not the "abduction" of Madeleine Mccann which is the fact.

[mercury]

A glimmer of light, yes, I agree.  It isn't about blame.

The rest of the discussion centres on why people continue to blame the McCanns for what happened to Madeleine.

If they had made different choices a traumatic event might have been avoided.

I think we can surmise they will never make the same choice again.

But they pay a heavy (and enduring) price for the choice they did make.

Isn't it fair to leave it there?

Yea, if and only if thats all

[Mr Gray]

Its not about blame its about facts...can children die from accidents....yes they can and do all the time but several people here have bust their guts to state it is impossible it could have happened to Madeleine

what I have said is that death from ahead injury could not have happened within the timeframe

[G-Unit]

what I have said is that death from ahead injury could not have happened within the timeframe

Why does it have to be a head injury?

[Mr Gray]

Why does it have to be a head injury?

it doesn't...but that is what posters have claimed for the past 8 yrs...including amaral

[G-Unit]

it doesn't...but that is what posters have claimed for the past 8 yrs...including amaral

Some posters have, true, but there are other possibilities.

[G-Unit]

Children can die suddenly for no discernible reason whatsoever;

Sudden Unexplained Death in Childhood (SUDC) occurs in children over the age of twelve months. The cause of death remains unexplained after thorough case investigation including: examination of the death scene, performance of a complete autopsy, and a review of the child's and family's medical history. SUDC is a diagnosis of exclusion given when all known and possible causes of death have been ruled out.
http://www.sudc.org/About/FAQs

[Mr Gray]

Children can die suddenly for no discernible reason whatsoever;

Sudden Unexplained Death in Childhood (SUDC) occurs in children over the age of twelve months. The cause of death remains unexplained after thorough case investigation including: examination of the death scene, performance of a complete autopsy, and a review of the child's and family's medical history. SUDC is a diagnosis of exclusion given when all known and possible causes of death have been ruled out.
http://www.sudc.org/About/FAQs

Children die for a reason..SUDC seems to be an American term used when that reason cannot be found...

Again we have the time frame...could a child deteriorate and die within 90 mins...where are the case histories...they don't seem to exist

[Alfred R Jones]

Children can die suddenly for no discernible reason whatsoever;

 Sudden Unexplained Death in Childhood (SUDC) occurs in children over the age of twelve months. The cause of death remains unexplained after thorough case investigation including: examination of the death scene, performance of a complete autopsy, and a review of the child's and family's medical history. SUDC is a diagnosis of exclusion given when all known and possible causes of death have been ruled out.
http://www.sudc.org/About/FAQs

Presumably you don't believe that MAdeleine died of SUDC otherwise why the need for a cover up?

[G-Unit]

Children die for a reason..SUDC seems to be an American term used when that reason cannot be found...

Again we have the time frame...could a child deteriorate and die within 90 mins...where are the case histories...they don't seem to exist

Do you have any objection to American terms? I think the keyword is 'sudden'. The case histories exist;

 Within about 10 minutes or even less, he had slipped away.
http://www.sudc.org/patrick/Patricks-Story

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=sudc+stories&rlz=1C1DSGL_enGB457GB457&oq=sudc+stories&aqs=chrome.0.69i59.7247j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=0&ie=UTF-8

http://www.muchloved.com/community/forum_posts.asp?TID=555

[mercury]

what I have said is that death from ahead injury could not have happened within the timeframe

The timeframe runs from the last independent witness to see her alive to when the alarm was raised/flat searched...that s MORE than 90 minutes and anything could have happened